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<p class="MsoNormal">Spec Call Notes 8-Feb-21<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John Bradley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Vittorio Bertocci<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brian Campbell<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kristina Yasuda<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tim Cappalli<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bjorn Hjelm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Edmund Jay<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Federation Spec<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Roland Hedberg is addressing comments by Brian and Torsten<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There should be a new draft within a few weeks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> This is based on three rounds of interop work last year<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">SCIM Update<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim reported that Pam is trying to envision SCIM, FastFed, and SSE all working together<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There may be a SCIM BoF at the next IETF<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> FastFed is now meeting every two weeks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">FAPI V1 Final Specs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Edmund reported that issues are being filed, reviewed, and addressed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Browser Interactions Special Topic Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim said that Microsoft plans to contribute its use cases, as do others<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Vittorio expects he and George to contribute some scenarios<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There will be another special topic call on Wednesday<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">SIOP Special Topic Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The topic of the last call was portable identifiers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The goal is to enable all OPs to serve portable identifiers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John said that some people don't want to port the identifiers themselves - just the cryptographic keys behind them<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The business model question was asked, on Mike's behalf<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Some people didn't want to also have the business model discussion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> They discussed some of the new functionality that would be needed by RPs and OPs to support portable identifiers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> They discussed the relationship between this and the MODRNA account porting spec<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina observed that the topic is broader than self-issued identities, and therefore should be happening in the main Connect WG calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Several others agreed with that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tom asked about SIOP running over DIDComm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John said that he wasn't aware of alternate transport discussions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike's observations from listening to the recording<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Interesting that people agreed that there is no real interest by normal humans<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There may be de facto interest if the provider is going out of business<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> RP support appears to be needed for porting identities<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There's a portable identifiers document being worked on<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The topic appears to broad enough that it deserves its own spec, separate from the SIOP V2 spec<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John reported that people didn't want the old provider to have to have a reference to the new provider<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John stated that we should rely on cryptographic solutions - not centralized solutions, such as Docker images<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He said that we might be able to have cryptographic proof of an old provider delegating to a new one<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat commented that we could look at using an XRI-like model<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Open Issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1206: How to support LD-Proofs in Verifiable Presentations<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We should bring this up on a call when there are experts on the call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1207: Custom URL scheme clarification needed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> This may be a duplicate of #1199<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim said that we shouldn't just give up on this - possibly discussing it with OS vendors<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There was a discussion about the usability problems of multiple handlers on iOS vs. Android<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1203: sub_jwk when sub is DID in SIOP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike said that this is there to know which key to use<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wallet Discovery and Invocation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We agreed to have a wallet discovery and invocation discussion during a future SIOP special topic call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim said that this is also related to WebID<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He asked why would WebID and this not be using CredMan?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The next call is on Thursday, February 11th, 2021 at 7am Pacific Time<o:p></o:p></p>
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