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<p class="MsoNormal">Spec Call Notes 14-Jan-21<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">George Fletcher<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Filip Skokan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Oliver Terbu<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kristina Yasuda<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bjorn Hjelm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tim Cappalli<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John Bradley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">DIF Liaison Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mostly operational discussions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Discussed how to promote relationship and encourage participation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Website updates are planned<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Browser Interactions Special Topic Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim reported that the special call was well attended, including some people that aren't normally on Connect calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> They agreed on a structure for future calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Includes both discussion time and presentations on related work<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George and Vittorio are working on a framework for describing use cases<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George reported that the academic community has significant concerns<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Internet2 and CANARIE were both on the call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim thinks that they should meet weekly<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim created a Wiki page for the call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Browser%20Interactions%20Special%20Topics%20Call">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Browser%20Interactions%20Special%20Topics%20Call</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George left some more comments on the IsLoggedIn issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">SIOP Special Topic Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Next Tuesday, January 19 10pm UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> On the first call, we'll discuss goals and purposes for the call and the work<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We'll discuss scope of what we want to achieve<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We'll inventory related specifications and documents<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Logout Specs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Discussing parameters for RP-initiated logout<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-rpinitiated-1_0.html">
https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-rpinitiated-1_0.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues/1182">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues/1182</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Filip suggested text for client_id and logout_hint<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/commits/730244980de1d31328c50d48c32288be872d1aea">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/commits/730244980de1d31328c50d48c32288be872d1aea</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George is OK with logout_hint, provided that its value can be the session ID<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Vittorio suggested in a comment using existing parameters<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike agreed to publish a new draft incorporating Filip's suggestion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Both of them are optional parameters<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Open Issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1198 How does RP initiate SIOP request?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina said that there are ongoing discussions on this, including discovery and registration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike said that discovery and registration are essential for interoperability<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George suggested using .well-known/openid-configuration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The just-adopted SIOP V2 spec has a way of doing this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George said that for FIDO, they do JavaScript to determine whether FIDO is even feasible<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We want similar functionality for Self-Issued OpenID Providers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George will add a comment to this effect<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1201 Agree on the Self-issued OpenID Connect Provider Requirements Document<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We achieved this - Kristina will close<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1197 Formulate response to WebID / IsLoggedIn proposals<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Assigned to Tim<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1202 Suggested OP iframe javascript suggests a wrong split<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will address<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1200 Impact of Implicit Grant Removal in OAuth 2.1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> OpenID Connect uses OAuth 2.0 - not 2.1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> OAuth 2.1 is also supposed to not introduce any breaking changes to OAuth 2.0<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Filip points out that OpenID Connect doesn't use sender-constrained tokens, per the Security BCP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said that FAPI does define sender-constrained tokens<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1199 Which wallet gets invoked in SIOP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike: When we last discussed this, we decided that the RP would use the URL to determine what to invoke<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike: I expect that most users will have zero or one wallet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Otherwise there's significant complexity<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim: Unfortunately, I think that some use cases will require use of specific wallets<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George: If the user can communicate their DID to the RP, then there could be a wallet per DID<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tom: The platform should decide to avoid privacy violations<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim: Does the wallet have to have a pre-existing relationship with the platform prior to being invoked<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike: To the extent that wallets have different capabilities, the RP may need to know how to select one with those capabilities<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tim: There may be the ability to use something like Presentation Exchange for wallets<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tom: There will be wallets that don't use DIDs - for instance for Driver's Licenses<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Assigned to Kristina<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Final FAPI 1.0 Specification<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Edmund is working on creating the final FAPI 1.0 specification drafts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The Implementer's draft votes for MODRNA and FastFed also passed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The next call is on Monday, January 18th, 2021 at 3pm Pacific Time<o:p></o:p></p>
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