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<p class="MsoNormal">Spec Call Notes 31-Aug-20<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John Bradley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tobias Looker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kristina Yasuda<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">James Manger<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Edmund Jay<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">External Organizations<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina believes that OIDF should receive a signed liaison agreement from DIF soon<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Some DIF participants will attend this Pacific-friendly call versus some will attend the Europe-friendly call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> For instance, Oliver Terbu and Markus Sabadello attended the previous call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Events<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> IIW Registration is open<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> October 20-22, 2020 <a href="https://internetidentityworkshop.com/">
https://internetidentityworkshop.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> OpenID Virtual Workshop<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> October 28, 2020 at 9am PT/12pm ET/4pm UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> FDX Workshop<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat is speaking at a workshop on FAPI September 21/22<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">SIOP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike summarized some of the discussions from the last call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Existing SIOP deployments<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said that the RECUIT company in Japan has a deployment with tens of millions of users<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Aggregated Claims Draft<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Sources are now in our bitbucket repository, as well as HTML<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/src/master/openid-connect-claims-aggregation/">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/src/master/openid-connect-claims-aggregation/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will post the working group draft to openid.net/specs/<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">SIOP Laundry List<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tobias created a document with a set of straw polls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://hackmd.io/j2RD1m5QSZKotXoRfhUQQQ?view">
https://hackmd.io/j2RD1m5QSZKotXoRfhUQQQ?view</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> A. Either (1) have sub always be a URI or (2) allow either JWK Thumbprint or URI<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike said that it's not a breaking change if we continue to allow JWK Thumbprints<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John said that he hates content sniffing<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat and Kristina will talk with people behind the RECRUIT deployment to learn its status<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> James pointed out that if you change the issuer, you can change the sub without it being a breaking change<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John said that we want to still support signing without a dereference<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said we could use a new URL like
<a href="https://self-issued.me/v2/">https://self-issued.me/v2/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Then we could have the "sub" always be a URI<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tobias said that the parties need to communicate which kinds of URIs they support<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John said that we're also essentially talking about different response types<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tobias said that you may also be asking for aggregated claims<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John suggested we do RP discovery rather than jam everything into the request<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike noted that OpenID Connect Federation uses RP discovery<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tobias wants RPs to be able to operate without hosting a URL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> (Nat called time before we got through the straw polls)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Adoption of Tom's document<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tom would like to have his document adopted by the working group<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://github.com/KantaraInitiative/DistributedAssurance/blob/master/OpenID%20Self%20Issued%20Identifier.md">https://github.com/KantaraInitiative/DistributedAssurance/blob/master/OpenID%20Self%20Issued%20Identifier.md</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike reminded people that to be adopted, the contents of document needs to be sent to the mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Not just a reference<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tom plans to do that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Introductions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> James Manger (re)introduced himself<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He's at Telstra Labs in Melbourne, Australia<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> They've been doing OpenID Connect for quite a while<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He wonders how self-issued identities can be used with fraud prevention<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next Calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat asked whether we want to have weekly calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John asked if he meant both calls or just the Pacific call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat was proposing making the Pacific call weekly and leaving a bi-weekly Atlantic call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> (This was the original call schedule years ago)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We would need two weeks’ notice<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat will notify the list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Certification<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We decommissioned the old certification suite today<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Now only the new Java-based suite is running<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> See the updated instructions at <a href="https://openid.net/certification/instructions/">
https://openid.net/certification/instructions/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">logout_hint Proposal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Issue #1182 - Add logout_hint parameter to RP-Initiated Logout request<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues/1182/add-logout_hint-parameter-to-rp-initiated">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues/1182/add-logout_hint-parameter-to-rp-initiated</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> (We ran out of time before discussing this. Please comment in the issue.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Open Issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> (We ran out of time so no additional open issues were discussed)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The next working group call is Thursday, September 10 at 7am Pacific Time<o:p></o:p></p>
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