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<p class="MsoNormal">Spec Call Notes 6-Jun-19<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bjorn Hjelm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brian Campbell<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rich Levinson<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Login with Apple<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Apple announced Login with Apple this week at their developer's conference<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nov Matake has created a Ruby gem for it, and so knows the ins and outs of the protocol<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Apparently it is Connect-like but not exactly Connect<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat and Mike have asked Nov if he could summarize how it's the same and different<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike found this after the call https://developer.okta.com/blog/2019/06/04/what-the-heck-is-sign-in-with-apple<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Dick Hart pointed out new app store requirements to use Login with Apple on Twitter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> https://twitter.com/DickHardt/status/1135769039043563520<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Authentication Failed Error Code Draft<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike sent in a review<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OpenID Connect for Identity Proofing<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike sent in a review<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The most important comment was to make it about verified data - not just verified person data<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Verified person data can still be covered by the draft<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat: It's always good to have a general thing - then you can profile it to meet your specific requirements<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tony wrote that we should align with ISO 2903<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We should also look at the EU minimal viable KYC document<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> PRIORITY GROUP 2 PROPOSAL FOR AN ATTRIBUTE-BASED & LoA-RATED KYC FRAMEWORK FOR THE FINANCIAL SECTOR IN THE DIGITAL AGE<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">EIC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The OpenID workshop was very well attended<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Transient Subject Identifier Type<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Davide Vaghetti wrote a document on this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> See https://gist.github.com/daserzw/813023b4e1c04d09beb732ef00d7c9e9<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> People should review his proposal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There's a mailing list discussion on whether RPs need to be dynamically told that the subject is transient<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Some banks are using the transaction ID as the subject, which is problematic<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Apparently the banks are reluctant to provide user identity<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> It's especially problematic when people have multiple accounts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Brian stated that the Open Banking use case was intended to be pure authorization - not identity<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> This has been discussed in the FAPI working group<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We should explicitly describe the "sub" lifetime expectations in Connect Core<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat filed the issue #1096 - Core - Section 8. Need more subject_type<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat gave the example that passports use time-bound identifiers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said that age verification is a possible use case for ephemeral identifiers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said that identifier unlinkability is described in ISO 27551<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">EAP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We're in the public review period for the two EAP specs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> https://openid.net/2019/04/22/public-review-period-for-two-proposed-eap-implementers-drafts/<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> People are encouraged to review them<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Voting was started<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> However it was blocked by a Ruby application error<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will have Nov Matake investigate<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> It turns out to have been caused by a Rails version upgrade, which Nov fixed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The voting period will need to be rescheduled<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Open Issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1093 - Extensibility: how do we support extensibility for trust frameworks, evidences, verification methods and id documents?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will comment on registries, OpenID, and IANA<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1094 - How to treat unknown identifiers in claims parameter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In general, we ignore not-understood values<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> If a value is required and not understood, and appropriate error can be returned<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1095 - Registration - 3 - rotate/renew secret<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> RFC 7592 can be used to do this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1096 - Core - Section 8. Need more subject_type<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike commented about the existing subject types being persistent<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The next call is Tuesday, June 11 at 4pm Pacific Time<o:p></o:p></p>
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