<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Mike,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>That is not what your email said…<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;" class="">As described at </span><a href="http://openid.net/2017/03/07/notice-of-vote-for-implementers-drafts-of-openid-connect-logout-specifications/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;" class="">http://openid.net/2017/03/07/notice-of-vote-for-implementers-drafts-of-openid-connect-logout-specifications/</a><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;" class="">, the vote to approve the Implementer’s Drafts of the three logout specs is under way.</span></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Further, the referenced link makes no such distinction.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" class="">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">This reply is being written wearing my board secretary hat, in order to clear up several points of possible confusion created by Phil’s note.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">Phil, the question before the foundation is membership is whether the OpenID Foundation membership wants there to be intellectual property protections for implementers of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-session-1_0-28.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">openid-connect-session-1_0-28.html</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><a href="x-msg://30/openid-connect-frontchannel-1_0-02.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">openid-connect-frontchannel-1_0-02.html</a>, and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-backchannel-1_0-04.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">openid-connect-backchannel-1_0-04.html</a>. The question is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">not</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>being asked whether the membership believes that these should become OpenID Final Specifications. People should vote their positions on the intellectual property protection question (while also separately providing technical feedback to the working group, should they decide to do that).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">There is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">not</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>an option to vote separately on the three specifications. As is typically done with closely related specifications, the options are to Approve, Reject, or Abstain on the question of providing intellectual property protections for all three specifications.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">Phil, as a working group member who participated in the decision to ask for intellectual property protections for this bundle of related specifications (see the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/Week-of-Mon-20170116/006422.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">January 19, 2017 working group call notes</a>), I’m surprised that you would now oppose those protections, but it’s obviously up to you how you vote. The logical time to raise objections within the working group would have been during the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/Week-of-Mon-20170123/006428.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">one-week review of the Candidate proposed OpenID Connect logout Implementer's Drafts</a>, which was announced by e-mail to the working group on January 25, 2017, before the foundation-wide public review period. No objections were raised by anyone, and so<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openid.net/2017/02/04/review-of-proposed-implementers-drafts-of-openid-connect-logout-specifications/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">the foundation-wide review was announced</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on February 4, 2017.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">To be clear, while writing as board secretary, I am intentionally not taking a position on any of the technical points that Phil is raising. The working group can and should discuss these, but they are not the subject of this thread.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""> -- Mike (OpenID Foundation Board Secretary)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">P.S. Phil, I’ll respond privately to your “</span>Which account do we log in with?<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">” question.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Phil Hunt [<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" class="">mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 16, 2017 3:24 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" class="">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" class="">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Vote to approve logout Implementer's Drafts<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">With regards to the Backchannel Logout spec, I urge a vote of NO to moving forward at this time.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Approving the Backchannel Logout is premature given that SET, which Backchannel depends on, has not been through WGLC.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I believe there are issues in the SET draft which need to be resolved first that may result in normative changes. For example, differentiation of SETs (Logout Events) from ID Tokens and Access tokens.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">The Backchannel Logout draft causes confusion as to whether it is a command or an event. We have not had good discussion on the differences in intent. A Logout Event should simply say session X was canceled by an issuer. It is not a command to a third party though the expectation is that often policy at the receiver will cause that effect.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I believe there are many use cases where relying parties (clients) will also want to signal logouts. Though there may not be need to affect a single-sign-out but rather a need to co-ordinate UX. Even when session cancellation not propagated to other clients it may be useful for the OP to know that a particular client needs a new token in order to establish a new session.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Regardless of whether these are valid concerns, I believe we need to continue to discuss the scope of use cases the draft should address. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Phil<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Architect & Standards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">@independentid<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><a href="http://www.independentid.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.independentid.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Mar 16, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Mike Jones via Openid-specs-ab <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">As described at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openid.net/2017/03/07/notice-of-vote-for-implementers-drafts-of-openid-connect-logout-specifications/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">http://openid.net/2017/03/07/notice-of-vote-for-implementers-drafts-of-openid-connect-logout-specifications/</span></a>, the vote to approve the Implementer’s Drafts of the three logout specs is under way. There’s a quorum requirement for approval, so if you’re an OpenID Foundation member, please participate in vote now at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/111" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/111</span></a>. (And if you’re not a member, the page says how you can become a member and vote.)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Implementer’s Drafts are not final specifications – they are stable versions for people to use for interop testing and early deployments. Additional changes incorporating developer feedback are still possible after the specifications become Implementer’s Drafts.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> -- Mike<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(writing as OpenID Foundation Board Secretary)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Openid-specs-ab mailing list<br class=""></span><a href="mailto:Openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">Openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span><a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ab" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ab</span></a></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>