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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I actually think it used to be talking about the fact that Simple Web Discovery had redirection return values. Anyway, it could have been trying to talk about
what you’re discussing. How about this for a replacement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Note that since the host and resource values determined from the user input Identifier is used as input to a WebFinger request, which
can return an Issuer value using a completely different domain, no relationship can be assumed between the user input Identifier string and the resulting Issuer location.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If this is what you’re talking about wanting to say, where it is isn’t the right place to say it, but I can figure out the right place to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net; John Bradley<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Discovery text question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suspect this was written by John. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This sentence, while obscure, IMHO, is talking about the delegation use case. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Supppose I have used <a href="mailto:nat@sakimura.org">nat@sakimura.org</a> as a user identifier. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since I use <a href="http://fullxri.com">fullxri.com</a> as my IdP, in the end, the issuer turns out to be
<a href="http://fullxri.com">fullxri.com</a> which is different than <a href="http://sakimura.org">
sakimura.org</a>. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The second sentence is talking about this, I think. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is kind of a important usecase. While I use an obscure IdP such as fullxri, many corporations use Google Apps for domains for their IdP service in which case the final issuer is going to be
<a href="http://google.com">google.com</a>. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, while I am open to clarification, I object for the deletion. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nat<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2013/12/19 Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://openid.bitbucket.org/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html#ProviderConfigurationValidation" target="_blank">http://openid.bitbucket.org/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html#ProviderConfigurationValidation</a>
currently says:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The </span><tt><span lang="EN">issuer</span></tt><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> value returned MUST be identical to the Issuer URL that was directly used to retrieve the
configuration information. This MUST also be identical to the </span><tt><span lang="EN">iss</span></tt><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> Claim value in ID Tokens issued from this Issuer.
<span style="background:yellow">Since the discovery process allows for multiple levels of redirection, this Issuer URL MAY be different from the one originally used to begin the discovery process.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The intended meaning of the last sentence isn’t clear to me. First, do people believe this sentence is still valid or should it be deleted? Unless people come up with a clearer
meaning and say why it needs to be retained, I’d suggest deletion. Any objections, or do people want to suggest clearer wording?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#888888"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
Nat Sakimura (=nat)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chairman, OpenID Foundation<br>
<a href="http://nat.sakimura.org/" target="_blank">http://nat.sakimura.org/</a><br>
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