<div dir="ltr">I just totally hate this. The notion of “pixels” on modern devices, particularly in the era of ultra-high-density “retina” screens, is deeply broken. For an introduction to some of the basics, go read <a href="http://android-developers.blogspot.ca/2011/07/new-tools-for-managing-screen-sizes.html">http://android-developers.blogspot.ca/2011/07/new-tools-for-managing-screen-sizes.html</a> (warning: budget a half-hour of reading time). If the effect we're trying to achieve is that that the popup not occupy the full screen, or more specifically any more than 75% of it in either dimension, then that’s what the text should say. I totally guarantee that in a single-digit number of years, display issues are going to make this spec language ROFL fodder. What about on a heads-up display like Glass? What about on your TV? What about on your wristwatch?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Richer, Justin P. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jricher@mitre.org" target="_blank">jricher@mitre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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The last line sounds awkward to me, how about this edit:
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It is suggested that the popup User-Agent window have a minimum size of 450 pixels wide and 500 pixels tall and occupy no more than 75% of the horizontal and vertical screen size. The OP can dynamically resize the window as appropriate.</div>
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<div>On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>></div>
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How about we change this:<u></u><u></u></div>
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The popup User-Agent window SHOULD be 450 pixels wide and 500 pixels tall.<u></u><u></u></div>
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to this:<u></u><u></u></div>
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It is suggested that the popup User-Agent window have a minimum size of 450 pixels wide and 500 pixels tall and occupy no more than 75% of the horizontal and vertical screen size. (Also note that in most browsers today, the OP can dynamically resize the window.)<u></u><u></u></div>
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Does that work better for people?<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-" target="_blank">openid-</a><a href="mailto:specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura<br>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:58 AM<br>
To: Vladimir Dzhuvinov / NimbusDS<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup</span></div>
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Can we be less prescriptive and say that it should not occupy more than 75% of the width and height but has to be larger than certain size and to go full size if it is less than that size?<u></u><u></u></div>
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=nat via iPhone<u></u><u></u></div>
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Oct 24, 2013 17:18<span style="font-family:'MS Mincho'">、</span>"Vladimir Dzhuvinov / NimbusDS" <<a href="mailto:vladimir@nimbusds.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">vladimir@nimbusds.com</span></a>><span> </span><span style="font-family:'MS Mincho'">のメッセージ</span>:<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Popup windows can be resized dynamically after they are opened with<u></u><u></u></div>
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> JavaScript using window.resizeBy() or window.resizeTo(). Given the<u></u><u></u></div>
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> multitude of display sizes, aspect ratios and resolutions I suggest we<u></u><u></u></div>
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> leave this recommendation out.<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Vladimir Dzhuvinov :<span> </span><a href="http://www.nimbusds.com/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.NimbusDS.com</span></a><span> </span>:<span> </span><a href="mailto:vladimir@nimbusds.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">vladimir@nimbusds.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></div>
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> -------- Original Message --------<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup<u></u><u></u></div>
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> From: Tim Bray <<a href="mailto:tbray@textuality.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">tbray@textuality.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></div>
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> Date: Wed, October 23, 2013 11:33 pm<u></u><u></u></div>
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> To: Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></div>
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> Cc: "<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a>"<u></u><u></u></div>
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> <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a>><u></u><u></u></div>
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> If it were absent, I’m damn sure you wouldn’t get consensus to add it. <u></u><u></u></div>
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> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Mike Jones<u></u><u></u></div>
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> <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</span></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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> I’m not hearing consensus to make any specific changes to this<u></u><u></u></div>
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> From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></div>
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> [<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</span></a>] On Behalf Of Richer,<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Justin P.<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:09 PM<u></u><u></u></div>
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> To: Brian Campbell<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Cc:<span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></div>
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> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup<u></u><u></u></div>
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> FWIW, we ignore this parameter completely as our UI is adaptive to<u></u><u></u></div>
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> On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Brian Campbell<u></u><u></u></div>
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> <<a href="mailto:bcampbell@pingidentity.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">bcampbell@pingidentity.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></div>
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> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM, George Fletcher <<a href="mailto:gffletch@aol.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gffletch@aol.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></div>
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> On Oct 23, 2013, at 5:50 AM, John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</span></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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> the window and the IdP needing to know the size to display text properly.<u></u><u></u></div>
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> a good idea to recommend a hight x width ratio.<u></u><u></u></div>
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> JainRain and others can probably say what the current best practice is.<u></u><u></u></div>
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> On 2013-10-22, at 11:40 PM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></div>
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> Microsoft developers were asking where the 450x500 dimensions came<u></u><u></u></div>
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> -- Mike<u></u><u></u></div>
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> From: Anthony Nadalin<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:38 PM<u></u><u></u></div>
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> To: Mike Jones; Tim Bray<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Cc:<span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></div>
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> Subject: RE: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Many devices don’t support 450 x 500 pixels<u></u><u></u></div>
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> From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></div>
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> [<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</span></a>] On Behalf Of Mike<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:42 PM<u></u><u></u></div>
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> To: Tim Bray<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Cc:<span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></div>
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> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Rather than saying “The popup User-Agent window SHOULD be 450 pixels<u></u><u></u></div>
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> From: Tim Bray [<a href="mailto:tbray@textuality.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:tbray@textuality.com</span></a>]<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34 PM<u></u><u></u></div>
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> Cc:<span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></div>
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> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup<u></u><u></u></div>
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> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Mike Jones<u></u><u></u></div>
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