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we (still) use this kind of parameter it as well (excl. the "wap"
value :-))<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.10.2013 18:41, schrieb Chuck
Mortimore:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">While we do our best to responsively adapt our
login services, explicit signaling from the client is important
for some of our customer use-cases. We'd vote to maintain. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Brian
Campbell <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bcampbell@pingidentity.com" target="_blank">bcampbell@pingidentity.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">IMHO, the display parameter already feels
obsolete (I mean fixed pixel recommendations and wap
feature phones?) and the world would be a better place if
Connect was just silent on it and let the AS apply
whatever display optimization heuristics it has at its
disposal, which will no doubt evolve over time.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:50
AM, George Fletcher <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:gffletch@aol.com" target="_blank">gffletch@aol.com</a>></span>
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<div>Yes, this is a carry over from OpenID 2 and
the popup window. I'm not sure a fixed size
makes sense any more as each idp has its own
dimensions. One of the original goals was to
prevent window resizing but that is pretty
much given in today's environment.</div>
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<div>The main guidance I would give is that the
popup window shouldn't cover more than X% of
the screen. Hopefully some ui team will know
what X is:)</div>
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<div>For me, if the popup covers more than say
60% of the screen it's better to move the user
to a full page redirect model. We've done this
for most of our mobile and tablet flows
because popups on mobile are a little weird UX
wise.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>George<br>
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--
<div>George Fletcher</div>
<div>Chief Architect, Identity Services</div>
<div>AOL Inc.</div>
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On Oct 23, 2013, at 5:50 AM, John Bradley
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>I think it was from the UI extension
for openID 2. I remember that there
was a reason Google and the other
authors of that extension needed it a
fixed size at the time. Something about
the RP popping the window and the IdP
needing to know the size to display text
properly.
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<div>Now that we assume browsers are JS
capable (Not so true 5 years ago) the
IdP can likely dynamically determine
the size. It might still be a good
idea to recommend a hight x width
ratio.</div>
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<div>JainRain and others can probably
say what the current best practice is.</div>
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<div>John B.<br>
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<div>On 2013-10-22, at 11:40 PM,
Mike Jones <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com"
target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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lang="EN-US">
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<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Microsoft
developers were asking
where the 450x500
dimensions came from and
if they’re the right
ones. Who know the
history of where these
dimensions came from?</span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">
-- Mike</span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
<div>
<div
style="border-style:solid
none
none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt
0in 0in">
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span>Anthony
Nadalin<span> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday,
October 22, 2013 11:38
PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span> </span>Mike
Jones; Tim Bray<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>RE:
[Openid-specs-ab] 450
x 500 recommendation
for popup</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"> </div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Many
devices don’t support 450
x 500 pixels</span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="141e62ea880ffa0e_141e5ccc830c3ba1__MailEndCompose"></a><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
<div>
<div
style="border-style:solid
none
none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt
0in 0in">
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"><b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><span> </span>[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]<span> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Mike
Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday,
October 22, 2013 10:42
PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span> </span>Tim
Bray<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
[Openid-specs-ab] 450
x 500 recommendation
for popup</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Rather
than saying “The popup
User-Agent window SHOULD
be 450 pixels wide and 500
pixels tall” should we say
“The popup User-Agent
window SHOULD be<span> </span><span
style="background-color:yellow;background-repeat:initial
initial">a minimum of</span><span> </span>450
pixels wide and 500 pixels
tall”?</span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">
-- Mike</span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"><b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span>Tim
Bray [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tbray@textuality.com"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:tbray@textuality.com</a>]<span> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday,
October 22, 2013 9:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span> </span>Mike
Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
[Openid-specs-ab] 450 x
500 recommendation for
popup</span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"> </div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">Yeah, no
kidding. And what about on
Retina displays? This
guidance seems in
appropriate.</div>
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New Roman',serif"> </p>
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New Roman',serif">
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at
5:32 PM, Mike Jones <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">A
question from
developers that I
forgot to ask on
Monday: Why is 450 x
500 the recommended
window size for
display=popup and is
this the right size?</div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif"><span
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
<span
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">
-- Mike</span></div>
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0in
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New Roman',serif">
<span
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