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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As Breno suggested, I’ve made the proposed changes to the Multiple Response Types spec. These changes do two things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Disentangle the specification of
<i>what</i> parameters are to be returned (which is done with the </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">response_type</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> parameter) from the specification
of <i>how</i> they are to be returned (which is done with the </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">response_encoding</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> parameter).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Define a
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">POST</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> response encoding that can be used to request that parameters be returned via form POST.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">response_encoding</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> parameter is only used when a non-default encoding is requested, so these changes will no
effect on current implementations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve posted an updated version at
<a href="http://self-issued.info/docs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-17-Oct-13.html">
http://self-issued.info/docs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-17-Oct-13.html</a>. The .xml source is posted there as well. Also, diffs from
<a href="http://openid.bitbucket.org/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0.html">the current BitBucket version</a> can be viewed as tracked changes in the Word version at
<a href="http://self-issued.info/docs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-17-Oct-13-diffs.docx">
http://self-issued.info/docs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-17-Oct-13-diffs.docx</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tomorrow I’ll review the current Connect specs and make the following related proposed changes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Add the
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">response_encodings_supported</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> discovery parameter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Review the places where fragment encoding is explicitly or implicitly specified, making sure the language doesn’t prohibit using the POST response
encoding instead. (Note that we should do this now, even should we don’t adopt POST as part of the core now, so we don’t preclude it in the future.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(I’d make these changes now, but it’s probably better that I do it when I’m not tired.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Anyway, this wasn’t hard and the result isn’t difficult to understand or implement. (And implementation will remain optional.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks to Breno, John, and Brian for the feedback on how this should work. Thanks especially to Brian for posting his draft, which I borrowed some text and
the example from.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Breno de Medeiros [mailto:breno@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brian Campbell; <openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] proposed POST response type for OAuth/Connect<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks, Brian. This is really useful. I suspect I’ll be using some of your text in my write-up.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I just spent some time on the phone with Breno discussing this and he agreed that defining a POST
response at this point is reasonable. When talking about possible ways of specifying the POST response behavior, he stated the principle that when a behavioral change is being requested, that this should be done so dynamically, rather than via registration.
That way, particular clients can be updated to use this behavior without requiring a new client registration. (He likes using registration to specify behavioral restrictions, however, such as requiring particular signing/encryption algorithms, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">He said that the way that he’d do it is to include a “transport=POST” parameter in the authorization
request. So that’s what I’ll write up. We could later than define “transport=postMessage”, “transport=CORS”, etc. if we decide to do so.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this is sufficiently small that we might be able to undertake in a short time-frame. I believe that POST support will prove useful. I'd recommend this to be added to the new response types part of the spec: <a href="http://openid.net/specs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-08.html">http://openid.net/specs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-08.html</a>,
for a number of reasons: It already has the burden to deal with the security properties of different encoding formats for different response types, and would be a small change in scope to change it to talk about 'transport' modes instead of encoding. That
spec also has been stable and changed little for a long time, so the chance that it can be re-written w/o side-effects is probably higher.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As an aside, Breno also said that the reason that he thinks Session Management isn’t yet ready to
be final, is that he’d like us to explore the option of using a CORS transport, rather than postMessage within Session Management. I’ll leave it to Breno to say more about this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> Thanks all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> -- Mike</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Campbell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-ab] proposed POST response type for OAuth/Connect</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">As discussed during today's call [1], attached is the pseudo-standard document I wrote up earlier this year describing an HTTP POST response type (effectively a POST binding) for OAuth/OIDC.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I know everyone has a lot of docs to read right now but this one is *very* short and has a good example.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">We've found this approach to work well in practice and be easy to implement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It can be done as a straight extension, as illustrated with this doc, or could incorporated into core connect.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">As John mentioned, the main drawback of this approach is proliferation of the Response Types registry. Which is kind of ugly but something that no one will care much about once it's done.
It's also more of a consequence of the response type constructs put forth by OAuth than it is with this particular extension.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></p>
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[1] <a href="http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/Week-of-Mon-20131014/004062.html" target="_blank">
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