<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>+1 <br><br>=nat via iPhone</div><div><br>Feb 3, 2013 10:54、Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>> のメッセージ:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John, I agree that this is an issue that applies to OAuth as well as Connect, but I believe we need to put a stake in the ground on how Connect should solve
it for the current implementer’s drafts.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For discussion purposes, one option would be to define a “lang” parameter whose value is a space-separated list of BCP 47 language identifiers.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Would that work for people, or would you like to see something different?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Cornelis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] OpenID Connect: UI language</span></p>
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For somehow reason most authentication protocols 'forget' about such a feature. Only OpenID 2.0 addresses it via the UI extension.<br>
For both SAML2 Browser POST and WS-Federation web passive, we indeed had to define some protocol extension ourself (a simple language parameter that is passed during the Browser POST). As BE e-government applications always have to be presented in all official
languages, this is a very important aspect for usability.<br>
It would be very nice if OpenID Connect would support this out-of-the-box as I don't like to define my own extensions on authentication protocols.<br>
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Kind Regards,<br>
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On 02/02/2013 11:20 PM, John Bradley wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know Canada uses it in there SAML profile. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we don't have it, those that need it for regulatory reasons will have to hack something in custom or not use Connect.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Better to nail down a standard way.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2013-02-02, at 6:00 PM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">OK – that’s good data. The<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://svn.openid.net/repos/specifications/user_interface/1.0/trunk/openid-user-interface-extension-1_0.html"><span style="color:purple">OpenID
2.0 UX extension</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>allowed a list of languages to be sent in the openid.ui.lang field. We don’t have equivalent functionality in Connect and Frank is saying that it’s important in multi-language locations
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">How should we address this need?</span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Nat
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 01, 2013 5:18 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] OpenID Connect: UI language</span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:SimSun">Preferred locale and the language-Script of the claims are not directly related. For example, when I book a hotel, I routinely need to fill form's name fields in en-us, ja-Kana-JP, and ja-Hani-JP while the
user interface is in ja-Jpan-JP. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:SimSun">It may be difficult to understand for those of you from a single script countries, but you need to recognize that there are people who lives with multiple scripts. </span></p>
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Feb 2, 2013 9:16</span><span style="font-family:SimSun">ã<span lang="ZH-CN">€</span></span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span><span style="font-family:SimSun">John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com"><span style="color:purple">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:SimSun">ã</span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span><span style="font-family:SimSun">®ã<span lang="ZH-CN">ƒ¡</span>ã<span lang="ZH-CN">ƒƒ</span>ã<span lang="ZH-CN">‚</span>»ã<span lang="ZH-CN">ƒ¼</span>ã<span lang="ZH-CN">‚¸</span></span><span style="font-family:SimSun">:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:SimSun">In most cases it would be the same but I think it is bad design to confuse them.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:SimSun">On 2013-02-01, at 3:36 PM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com"><span style="color:purple">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</span></a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net"><span style="color:purple">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-"><span style="color:purple">openid-</span></a><a href="mailto:specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net"><span style="color:purple">specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 28, 2013 12:06 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] OpenID Connect: UI language</span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Frank
Cornelis [<a href="mailto:info@e-contract.be"><span style="color:purple">mailto:info@e-contract.be</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, January 25, 2013 10:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mike Jones<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: OpenID Connect: UI language</span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span></p>
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Is preferred_locales also applicable to the presented UI? I thought it's only related to how the values of the UserInfo response look like.<br>
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I signed the IPR via my<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@e-contract.be"><span style="color:purple">info@e-contract.be</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>account.<br>
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On 01/25/2013 04:11 PM, Mike Jones wrote:<span style="font-family:SimSun"></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:25 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>OpenID Connect: UI language</span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span></p>
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OpenID has a User Interface extension that allows you to communicate the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
language preference between Client and OP.<br>
As I'm looking to add OpenID Connect support to the eID IdP, I cannot<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
really find an equivalent of this extension for OpenID Connect. Where<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
should I be looking? The Authorization Request display parameter seems<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
to be limited to "page", "popup", "touch", and "wap". Especially for<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
multi-lang (en, nl, fr, de) countries like Belgium, such a feature is<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
quite critical.<br>
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Kind Regards,<br>
Frank.</span><span style="font-family:SimSun"></span></p>
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