<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><base href="x-msg://1342/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It would be best addressed in OAuth itself. It is not just a connect issue.<div><br></div><div>I know Canada uses it in there SAML profile. </div><div><br></div><div>If we don't have it, those that need it for regulatory reasons will have to hack something in custom or not use Connect.</div><div><br></div><div>Better to nail down a standard way.</div><div><br></div><div>John B.</div><div><br><div><div>On 2013-02-02, at 6:00 PM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">OK – that’s good data. The<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://svn.openid.net/repos/specifications/user_interface/1.0/trunk/openid-user-interface-extension-1_0.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">OpenID 2.0 UX extension</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>allowed a list of languages to be sent in the openid.ui.lang field. We don’t have equivalent functionality in Connect and Frank is saying that it’s important in multi-language locations such as Belgium.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">How should we address this need?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 01, 2013 5:18 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John Bradley<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mike Jones; <a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] OpenID Connect: UI language<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">Preferred locale and the language-Script of the claims are not directly related. For example, when I book a hotel, I routinely need to fill form's name fields in en-us, ja-Kana-JP, and ja-Hani-JP while the user interface is in ja-Jpan-JP. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">It may be difficult to understand for those of you from a single script countries, but you need to recognize that there are people who lives with multiple scripts. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">Best, <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><br>=nat via iPhone<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><br>Feb 2, 2013 9:16<span lang="ZH-CN">、</span>John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN">のメッセージ</span>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">I just mentioned this on the other thread.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">I personally think they are used differently.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">Nat can probably speak to this better as someone from a multi script country.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">It is possible that the script you want the claims in is not the script you want for the UI. (There are a limited set of languages this applies to I admit)<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">In most cases it would be the same but I think it is bad design to confuse them.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">The claim script is about what the RP needs for it's processing , the UI is what the user needs to interact. Conflating them is probably a mistake.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">John B.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">On 2013-02-01, at 3:36 PM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I believe that Frank has asked an important question. Is preferred_locales intended to apply to the user interface as well as the claims? I’d think it should.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">What do others think?</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> -- Mike</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">openid-</a><a href="mailto:specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike Jones<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 28, 2013 12:06 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] OpenID Connect: UI language</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I’ll try have the working group discuss whether preferred_locales is applicable to the presented UI on the working group call today.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> Thanks,</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> -- Mike</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Frank Cornelis [<a href="mailto:info@e-contract.be" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">mailto:info@e-contract.be</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, January 25, 2013 10:22 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mike Jones<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: OpenID Connect: UI language</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hi Mike,<br><br><br>This UserInfo Request can also be passed during the Authorization redirect/browser-post?<br><br>Is preferred_locales also applicable to the presented UI? I thought it's only related to how the values of the UserInfo response look like.<br><br>I signed the IPR via my<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@e-contract.be" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">info@e-contract.be</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>account.<br><br><br>Kind Regards,<br>Frank.<br><br>On 01/25/2013 04:11 PM, Mike Jones wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">See preferred_locales in<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-messages-1_0.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-messages-1_0.html</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">By the way, if you're going to post to the working group mailing list, you'll need to submit an IPR agreement for the working group. See the Participation section of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openid.net/connect/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">http://openid.net/connect/</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>on how to do that.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Frank Cornelis [<a href="mailto:info@e-contract.be" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">mailto:info@e-contract.be</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:25 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>OpenID Connect: UI language</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hi,<br><br><br>OpenID has a User Interface extension that allows you to communicate the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>language preference between Client and OP.<br>As I'm looking to add OpenID Connect support to the eID IdP, I cannot<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>really find an equivalent of this extension for OpenID Connect. Where<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>should I be looking? The Authorization Request display parameter seems<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>to be limited to "page", "popup", "touch", and "wap". Especially for<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>multi-lang (en, nl, fr, de) countries like Belgium, such a feature is<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>quite critical.<br><br><br>Kind Regards,<br>Frank.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">_______________________________________________<br>Openid-specs-ab mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ab" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ab</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; ">_______________________________________________<br>Openid-specs-ab mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ab" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ab</a></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>