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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Join at
<a href="https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694">https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694</a>. There are two different meeting IDs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Bray<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richer, Justin P.<br>
<b>Cc:</b> openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Calendar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hm, I$B!G(Bm sitting on the G2m client right now and nobody else is here. Guess I picked the wrong week to start attending. -T<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Richer, Justin P. <<a href="mailto:jricher@mitre.org" target="_blank">jricher@mitre.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's really strange, then. I have no idea why it wasn't connecting for me, but at least I know it's something on my end.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 6, 2012, at 12:25 PM, John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nat and I were on the G3m client and George was phoned in. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I used the GoToMeeting client. Were you guys using the phone bridge?
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<p class="MsoNormal"> -- Justin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 6, 2012, at 12:18 PM, John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Strange George Nat and I were on from 9 to almost 10 ET this morning. We did have one problem when nat dropped and it closed the call and I needed to restart it.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2012-12-06, at 12:12 PM, Justin Richer <<a href="mailto:jricher@mitre.org" target="_blank">jricher@mitre.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Either way, shouldn't it be happening by now? I wasn't sure of the time this morning, so I've been logged in since 9am EST, and now it's 10:15 EST and nobody's there.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The web page I get at <a href="http://openid.net/wg/connect/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/wg/connect/</a> states 7am PDT now that I think that through that is 6am PST though I suspect most people are going to read that as I did as
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps we could also add the US winter times to make it clearer.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style="font-family:"inherit","serif";color:#333333">Where: <a href="https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/695548174" target="_blank" title="OpenID AB/C WG"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#2970CB;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none">https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/695548174</span></a></span></b><span style="font-family:"inherit","serif";color:#333333">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2012-12-06, at 11:57 AM, Nat Sakimura <<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com" target="_blank">sakimura@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's wired. I just saw the calendar <span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:".HelveticaNeueUI","serif""><a href="http://openid.net/wg/connect/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/wg/connect/</a> </span>but it is saying that it is 11pm
JST/6am PST. My subscription says the same. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Dec 6, 2012 5:13<span lang="ZH-CN">$B!"(B</span>John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We really need to pick one.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am 12h ahead of Nat so 11 am or noon both work for me. Clearly 6am is worse for the US west coast and midnight is worse for Japan.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps it may be better to completely re-work the timing. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">6am Pacific time really isn't workable. The WG decided during the Monday call to have the Thursday calls at 7am Pacific, but I don't think it
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Justin Richer</span><br>
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent: </span>
</b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">11/30/2012 10:58 AM</span><br>
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">To: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">George Fletcher</span><br>
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Cc: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a></span><br>
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Subject: </span>
</b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Calendar</span>
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On 11/29/2012 09:45 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please subscribe to this group calendar through the iCal link as it seems to be the most reliable way of sharing the calendar. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="http://nat.sakimura.org/" target="_blank">http://nat.sakimura.org/</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
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<a href="http://nat.sakimura.org/" target="_blank">http://nat.sakimura.org/</a><br>
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