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Dec 6, 2012 7:14$B!"(BJustin Richer <<a href="mailto:jricher@mitre.org">jricher@mitre.org</a>> $B$N%a%C%;!<%8(B:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Either way, shouldn't it be happening
      by now? I wasn't sure of the time this morning, so I've been
      logged in since 9am EST, and now it's 10:15 EST and nobody's
      there.<br>
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       -- Justin<br>
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      On 12/06/2012 10:06 AM, John Bradley wrote:<br>
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      The web page I get at <a href="http://openid.net/wg/connect/">http://openid.net/wg/connect/</a>
      states 7am PDT now that I think that through that is 6am PST
      though I suspect most people are going to read that as I did as 7
      am Pacific.
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        <div>The Monday call also has the daylight savings time built
          in.</div>
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        <div>Perhaps we could also add the US winter times to make it
          clearer.</div>
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                    UTC (4pm PDT): </strong></li>
                <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:small;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1.5em"><strong>Where: <a title="OpenID AB/C WG" href="https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/695548174" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:13px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(41,112,203);text-decoration:none">https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/695548174</a></strong></li>

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                <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:small;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1.5em"><strong>When: Every Thursday 2pm
                    UTC (7am PDT): </strong></li>
                <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:small;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1.5em"><strong>Where: <a href="https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:13px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(41,112,203);text-decoration:none">https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694</a></strong></li>

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            <div>On 2012-12-06, at 11:57 AM, Nat Sakimura <<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>>
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                <div>That's wired. I just saw the calendar <span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://openid.net/wg/connect/">http://openid.net/wg/connect/</a> </span>but
                  it is saying that it is 11pm JST/6am PST. My
                  subscription says the same. </div>
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                  =nat via iPhone</div>
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                  Dec 6, 2012 5:13$B!"(BJohn Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>>
                  $B$N%a%C%;!<%8(B:<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">The web page currently states
                  7am Pacific and the ical is for 6am Pacific.
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                  <div>We really need to pick one.</div>
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                  <div>I am 12h ahead of Nat so 11 am or noon both work
                    for me.   Clearly 6am is worse for the US west coast
                    and midnight is worse for Japan.</div>
                  <div>Solution everyone moves to Chile:)</div>
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                      <div>On 2012-12-01, at 12:54 AM, Nat Sakimura <<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:</div>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">We actually did the call
                        at 2:00pm UTC, as in the calendar. 
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                          It was just me and John though, so ended up
                          just chatting things. </div>
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                        <div>7am Pacific is not so good for me, as it
                          will be midnight in Japan. </div>
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                        <div>Perhaps it may be better to completely
                          re-work the timing. </div>
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                        <div>Nat<br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 1, 2012
                            at 8:31 AM, Mike Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                  <div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">6am
                                    Pacific time really isn't workable. 
                                    The WG decided during the Monday
                                    call to have the Thursday calls at
                                    7am Pacific, but I don't think it
                                    happened this week. Hopefully it
                                    will next week.<br>
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                                    -- Mike<br>
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                                <span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">From:
                                </span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Justin
                                  Richer</span><br>
                                <span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">Sent:
                                </span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">11/30/2012
                                  10:58 AM</span><br>
                                <span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">To:
                                </span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">George
                                  Fletcher</span><br>
                                <span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">Cc:
                                </span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a></span><br>
                                <span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">Subject:
                                </span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Re:
                                  [Openid-specs-ab] Calendar</span>
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                                      <div>Ah, I bet you're right.<br>
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                                         -- Justin<br>
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                                        On 11/30/2012 12:11 PM, George
                                        Fletcher wrote:<br>
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                                          sans-serif">Yes... probably
                                          since day light savings time
                                          ended. The meetings are UTC
                                          based:)</font><br>
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                                        Thanks,<br>
                                        George<br>
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                                        <div>On 11/30/12 11:06 AM,
                                          Justin Richer wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>So am I right in reading
                                            that the Thursday meetings
                                            got moved an hour earlier? I
                                            haven't been able to attend
                                            for a while and when I tried
                                            calling in yesterday, nobody
                                            else was there.<br>
                                            <br>
                                             -- Justin<br>
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                                            On 11/29/2012 09:45 AM, Nat
                                            Sakimura wrote:<br>
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                                          <blockquote type="cite">Hi
                                            All: 
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                                            <div>The working group
                                              calendar is and has always
                                              been at <a href="http://openid.net/wg/connect/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/wg/connect/</a></div>
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                                            <div>Please subscribe to
                                              this group calendar
                                              through the iCal link as
                                              it seems to be the most
                                              reliable way of sharing
                                              the calendar. </div>
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                                            <div>Best, <br clear="all">
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                                              -- <br>
                                              Nat Sakimura (=nat)
                                              <div>Chairman, OpenID
                                                Foundation<br>
                                                <a href="http://nat.sakimura.org/" target="_blank">http://nat.sakimura.org/</a><br>
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