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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Should the "aliases" list always
contain the subject if it's present? Can it?<br>
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From my read, this is now missing the static redirect
functionality that earlier versions of SWD and Webfinger made
possible: drop a static file into the right place, it gets served
back with a 200 and the client can follow the redirection. This
might be accomplished somewhat cleanly by defining a "webfinger"
rel/link pairing, right?<br>
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-- Justin<br>
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On 11/22/2012 03:34 AM, Mike Jones wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This version is
JSON-only, no longer uses host-meta, uses query parameters
instead of templates, and uses a domain prefix to enable
hosted deployments. Are there other changes we would want
in this draft to use it for OpenID Connect?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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-- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org">apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul E. Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:apps-discuss@ietf.org">apps-discuss@ietf.org</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:webfinger@googlegroups.com">webfinger@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [apps-discuss]
draft-ietf-appsawg-webfinger-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I just posted a new draft that takes into
consideration the input I received on -03 and adds the
“webfinger” subdomain that was discussed on the list this past
week. Specifically, here’s what changed:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Mention in section 2
that WebFinger uses the “rel” attribute and provide a
reference to the IANA registry for link relations<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Deleted the second
paragraph from section 3 that expands on link relations<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Changed the link
relation value for “blog” to be just the token “blog”<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Corrected a syntax
error in the example in 4.1<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Clarified in section
4.1 what is meant by a “valid alias”<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Introduced a new
section 4.2 that shows an example for OpenID Connect<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Changed the rel types
in 4.3 and 4.4 to be URI-based (on example.net)<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Corrected syntax in 5.3
and added two clarifying sentences<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Introduced a new
section 5.5 that describes the “webfinger” subdomain<o:p></o:p></p>
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section 7<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Added language to
section 8 to support section 5.5<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Added language to
section 9 to support section 5.5<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Spells out Mike’s name
as he prefers it<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Added a couple of
informational references<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The new draft is here:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-webfinger-04">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-webfinger-04</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think we’re getting closer, though I know
the “webfinger” subdomain might be a bit controversial. I’m
on the fence on this one, myself. I can see the pros and cons
of having it. I’d prefer to stay out of the debate, though.
I’ll put into the document whatever the group says to put into
the documents :-) That said, I think Mike made a valid
argument with respect to the fact that some domain owners have
no ability to do anything more than insert an A record for a
subdomain.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do want to highlight the fact that the
current language says that if there is any response from a web
server at the host, that means the host does have the
capability of providing WF services and the “webfinger”
subdomain should not be consulted. Thus, the webfinger
subdomain would only be consulted if there is no web server
running at the host at all. It’s not a fallback for domain
owners who have a web server, but just didn’t install a WF
server. For that case, they should use 3xx redirection for
hosting the WF server elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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