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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We discussed having separate scopes like email_id at the in-person working group meeting at Yahoo! and explicitly rejected that approach. We’re not trying
to provide fine-grained control with scopes. (If you need that, use a request object.) We are providing a binary switch saying that the scope-requested claims are to be returned in a different place. As such, at least as I see it, the logical place to make
that declaration is also as a scope value.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Per Brian’s comment about special treatment for scope values – that was already true without claims_in_id_token. The “openid” scope alters/augments the semantics
of the rest of the entire OAuth exchange (including enabling the id_token). Compared to that, the special handling for the claims_in_id_token scope value is much less pervasive in impact.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For what it’s worth, I’m strongly against defining a new parameter when the consensus decision at the in-person working group was to use a scope value. We
specifically discussed that approach and agreed upon it. I believe that if we’re going even consider changing that, we should likewise do so at another in-person working group meeting. The reason I say that is that the decisions made in March at Yahoo! were
*<b>much</b>* more widely reviewed and discussed than most working group decisions, and so should be accorded special respect. (That’s the reason we decide consequential things at in-person WG meetings, after all.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> John Bradley [mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Campbell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mike Jones; openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] May 25, 2012 OpenID Connect Update Release<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't know that anyone is deeply attached to having it as a scope. The idea was to not require a request object.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Scopes implicitly specify the RS endpoint. This is sort of modifying the endpoint for other scopes, and I understand that is a touch awkward.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would something like having separate scopes like:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">phone_id <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you ask for email it comes back from user_info and if you ask for email_id it is in the id_token.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Or is there something else you are thinking such as adding an extra parameter? We are trying not to diverge from OAuth as much as possible. (Yes I know id_token is a big divergence)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If people don't like the <span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#003366">claims_in_id_token
</span></span><span class="apple-style-span">scope then lets get alternate proposals on the table quickly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John B.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2012-06-05, at 12:25 PM, Brian Campbell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'm trying to understand why a scope was used to indicate the desire for user info claims to be returned in the ID Token? It really seems like something that should be isolated to a flag on the request (a new
parameter or something in the request object). It feels out of place as a scope and will require ASs to have special conditional treatment of that one scope value (which I'd like to avoid as I'd think most implementers would).
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Added scope value </span>
<span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#003366">claims_in_id_token</span><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> as a switch to indicate that the UserInfo claims should be returned in the ID Token, per issue #561</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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