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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">This should be in Messages for sure. The whole point of including it now is that it is standard functionality – not optional functionality. We need to treat
it that way editorially, which means putting it in the main specs – not in a separate spec. If it’s separate, that greatly increases the chances of some developers ignoring it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Then we’d end up in a situation where it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t and so people don’t use it in practice. The worst of both worlds. (Sort of
like how i-names ended up in a sometimes-implemented situation for OpenID 2.0, rendering them pretty useless in practice.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Responding to Justin’s point about static infrastructure, I believe that the way we’re going to specify it will require no static infrastructure. Actually,
it make is the protocol *<b>more</b>* distributed, as it removes the dependence upon third party IdPs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Justin Richer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 18, 2012 8:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Should we put self-issued into the Messages or should we create a separate document?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In my opinion, it's too much of a bolt-on bit of functionality to add it to the core spec. It also presumes a few pieces of static infrastructure to be in place in order to function, and I'm not comfortable with a distributed protocol doing
that in the first place.<br>
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-- Justin<br>
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On 05/17/2012 05:29 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have self-issued OP documented at <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issue/566/messages-standard-define-self-issued-op">https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issue/566/messages-standard-define-self-issued-op</a> .
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have built the code that works. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We decided not to create Userinfo token, but decided to include them in the id_token. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Registration overlay still have not reached the consensus. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Having said that, we should now consider where we are going to put these in. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In Messages? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Or a separate spec? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please discuss. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
Nat Sakimura (=nat) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chairman, OpenID Foundation<br>
<a href="http://nat.sakimura.org/" target="_blank">http://nat.sakimura.org/</a><br>
@_nat_en<o:p></o:p></p>
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