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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We’d talked about that as a fallback, but decided against it, for some of the very reasons that you cite. All RPs need to know is to *<b>not</b>* try to discover
or do registration to self-issued IdPs and instead to use the IdPs public key or information derived from it directly. See
<a href="http://hg.openid.net/connect/issue/566/messages-standard-define-self-issued-op">
http://hg.openid.net/connect/issue/566/messages-standard-define-self-issued-op</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> Justin Richer [mailto:jricher@mitre.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 18, 2012 9:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Should we put self-issued into the Messages or should we create a separate document?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Responding to Justin’s point about static infrastructure, I believe that the way we’re going to specify
it will require no static infrastructure. Actually, it make is the protocol *<b>more</b>* distributed, as it removes the dependence upon third party IdPs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doesn't it require selfissued.me to be there to answer for all of these self-issued pocket IdPs in terms of discovery? That's the functionality that I understood from the meeting at Yahoo.<br>
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-- Justin<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><br>
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From:</span></b><br>
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<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Friday, May 18, 2012 8:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Should we put self-issued into the Messages or should we create a separate document?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In my opinion, it's too much of a bolt-on bit of functionality to add it to the core spec. It also presumes a few pieces of static infrastructure to be in place in order to function,
and I'm not comfortable with a distributed protocol doing that in the first place.<br>
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-- Justin<br>
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On 05/17/2012 05:29 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We have self-issued OP documented at <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issue/566/messages-standard-define-self-issued-op">https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issue/566/messages-standard-define-self-issued-op</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We have built the code that works. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We decided not to create Userinfo token, but decided to include them in the id_token. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Registration overlay still have not reached the consensus. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Having said that, we should now consider where we are going to put these in. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In Messages? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Or a separate spec? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Please discuss. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Nat Sakimura (=nat) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="http://nat.sakimura.org/" target="_blank">http://nat.sakimura.org/</a><br>
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