<html><head><base href="x-msg://5922/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Agreed that the costs need to be contained. Managing the existing Logo/trademark is a challenge.<div><br></div><div>This probably is a marketing committee/board decision, and not a technical one. </div><div><br></div><div>John B.<br><div><div>On 2012-04-04, at 2:46 PM, Mike Jones wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I’ll just add that I know that maintaining a logo worldwide is a very expensive endeavor, requiring dozens of registrations, due diligence, and enforcement actions – best case tens of thousands of dollars, but realistically, often hundreds of thousands of dollars. Creating a new brand and logo is not something we should do lightly.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Anthony Nadalin<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:11 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Justin Richer; Pam Dingle<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Branding for OpenID Connect<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I think this is a matter for OIDF to take up sine I believe they currently own the OpenID logo or are about to own that.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Justin Richer<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:[mailto:jricher@mitre.org]" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">[mailto:jricher@mitre.org]</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:07 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Pam Dingle<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Anthony Nadalin; <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Branding for OpenID Connect<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">Agree completely that it should tie into the overall branding of OpenID, and as such should probably incorporate the line/circle/arrow logo and standard OpenID font, but with something more "connecty" about it.<br><br> -- Justin<br><br>On 04/04/2012 12:53 PM, Pam Dingle wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">+1 for something distinctive for OpenID Connect, but that doesn't mean it can't be related to our overall brand.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Anthony Nadalin <<a href="mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">tonynad@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">I defer to the logo gods on the status of the current OpenID logo, but I'm one for not introducing a new one or a different one as it's an overall OpenID Brand<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of Richer, Justin P.<br>Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:50 AM<br>To: <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a>><br>Subject: [Openid-specs-ab] Branding for OpenID Connect<br><br>As I've been putting more and more presentations together talking about OpenID Connect, I keep getting stuck on the lack of a distinctive logo for it. Particularly when I want to distinguish Connect from OpenID 2.0 and its predecessors, as they are quite different. OAuth has its black token, and OAuth2 has the shiny token adapted from that. The best that I could find was from Chris Messina's original blog post that introduced us all to the terminology of "OpenID Connect", here:<br><br><a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/01/04/openid-connect/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/01/04/openid-connect/</a><br><br>So I'm putting it to the group here: is there a better or more official image to represent this protocol? 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