<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The issuer has nothing to do with the domains of the identifiers looked up through SWD.   SWD just tells you who the issuer is (though not could easily be lying).  <div><br></div><div>There is a email field that has a verified flag as part of the asserted data.   </div><div><br></div><div>OpenID Connect is specifically NOT proving that the discovery identifier is controlled by the person logging in.   Given that there is no user_id component of the authentication request this would be a bad mistake for a RP to make.</div><div><br></div><div>We have not stated anything about how a RP can tell if the IdP is providing meaningful email addresses.</div><div><br></div><div>Are you supposing that if the domain name of the issuer and email are the same they would be considered authoritative.  I don't know that would always be true.</div><div><br></div><div>John B.<br><div><div>On 2012-02-06, at 3:45 PM, Justin Richer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    John,<br>
    <br>
    The problem comes from the user-facing identifiers during discovery.
    What do I look up when somebody types in a <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bob@aol.com">bob@aol.com</a>? We have a
    similar thing here. The eventual issuer would be
    <a href="http://api.screenname.aol.com">api.screenname.aol.com</a> here still, but that issuer would be
    authoritative for <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bob@aol.com">"bob@aol.com"</a>, a fact that can be verified through
    discovery against <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bob@aol.com">"bob@aol.com"</a> again.<br>
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     -- Justin<br>
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    On 02/06/2012 01:40 PM, John Bradley wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:3E6DC0B8-3D32-458D-BE00-C4347CAC6C4A@ve7jtb.com" type="cite">Yes the redirect is part of SWD.  The domain name you
      redirect to can be anything.   
      <div>You still need a discovery document, however I would make the
        issuer for AOL be <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: pre; "><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://api.screenname.aol.com/swd_server">api.screenname.aol.com</a>
          and put the discovery document in <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://api.screenname.aol.com/swd_server/">https://api.screenname.aol.com/swd_server/</a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace;
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        <div>Making your issuer <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://aol.com/">aol.com</a> has no benefit and will
          probably cause you grief down the road.</div>
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        <div>John</div>
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          <div>On 2012-02-06, at 3:25 PM, George Fletcher wrote:</div>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi,<br>
              <br>
              I just found out that our XRD/Webfinger support in
              production is broken. This boils down to deployment issues
              for me since the owner of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://aol.com/">aol.com</a> domain is the portal
              team, not the identity team. As more and more specs are
              putting files in /.well-known I'm looking for solutions
              that are less brittle that what I have right now. With
              that context, is it acceptable to deploy a static file to
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://aol.com/.well-known/simple-web-discovery">https://aol.com/.well-known/simple-web-discovery</a>
              that returns...<br>
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              <pre class="newpage">   {
    "SWD_service_redirect":
     {
      "location": <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://api.screenname.aol.com/swd_server">"https://api.screenname.aol.com/swd_server"</a>,
      "expires": 1300752001
     }
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              That static file would ignore the query parameters though
              they will be logged. Note that if the SWD request is for
              an @aim.com domain the JSON response will be the same. <br>
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              <pre class="newpage">   GET /.well-known/simple-web-discovery
       ?principal=<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:joe@aim.com">mailto:joe@aim.com</a>
       &service=urn:example.org:service:calendar HTTP/1.1
   Host: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://aim.com/">aim.com</a>

   HTTP/1.1 200 OK
   Content-Type: application/json

   {
    "SWD_service_redirect":
     {
      "location": <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://api.screenname.aol.com/swd_server">"https://api.screenname.aol.com/swd_server"</a>,
      "expires": 1300752001
     }
   }
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              I'm assuming there are no trust chain issues if the
              redirect location does NOT match the root domain of the
              original request.<br>
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              Finally, the expiration field is going to cause me
              problems. I really would like the file to be static, but
              the client to requery every n hours/days/weeks. This could
              be done using HTTP expiration semantics. However, I don't
              have a deployment solution that allows me to update the
              file on a fixed interval. I'll keep exploring options to
              make it more dynamic, but the dynamic flow I have right
              now has been broken twice by config upgrades.<br>
              <br>
              Thanks,<br>
              George<br>
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