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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> iiwnotes@gmail.com; openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Panzer; Dale Olds; George Fletcher; Jain, Vikas; Michael Buck<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-ab] Notes from Thursday mid-day IIW OpenID Specification session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Session: OpenID Specification Work<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Organizer: Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When: May 5, 2011, 11:30 (Sessions 3 & 4), Room B<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Note Taker: Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thursday 11:30<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">George Fletcher<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Breno de Medeiros <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pamela Dingle<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Vikas Jain</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tony Nadalin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Michael Buck<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John Bradley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">These people joined us during the lunch hour, as work continued:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dale Olds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John Panzer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Edmund Jay<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We started with the topic of the schema for the UserInfo endpoint. Chuck Mortimore supplied this input data for the decision:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>This is PoCo - also wire compatible with OpenSocial -
<a href="http://portablecontacts.net/draft-schema.html" target="_blank">http://portablecontacts.net/draft-schema.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>This is the early SCIM work. We based ours on PoCo - I'd like to make sure this is overlapped and wire compatible -
<a href="http://www.simplecloud.info/">http://www.simplecloud.info/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>RPX normalizes all their providers to PoCo - <a href="https://rpxnow.com/docs#profile_data" target="_blank">
https://rpxnow.com/docs#profile_data</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Here's detail on how the data that the networks will actually return -
<a href="https://rpxnow.com/docs/providers" target="_blank">https://rpxnow.com/docs/providers</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Decision: Don’t invent something new<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Decision: Adopt a subset of the Portable Contacts schema<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fields in basic set:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Display Name<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nickname<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Full Name<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Photo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> e-Mail Address<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> URLs (typed, with types including “profile”, “blog”, etc.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Data of Birth / Age<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Equivalent of everything in SREG<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Verified e-mail (verified other?)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Breno: could define a mechanism to ask about validation of claims (especially e-mail)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike: Use claim(s) to express that e-mail and maybe other claims are verified<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Decision: Don’t change POCO e-mail format – add verification claim(s) that can be ignored if not understood<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Decision: Add “verified” into the POCO structure – parallel to “primary”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Meta – time last modified<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Phone number<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Breno: May want to define second set of supplemental attributes that are not in basic set<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Address<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Organization<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rejected:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> providerName – comes at the wrong point in the flow<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> preferred username<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">George: Context and purpose form-fill for site registration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Observation: POCO contains both fields about me and fields about what I know about others.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Decision: We are only including fields that are about me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat: Need to extend to be able to represent information in multiple scripts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat has proposal for how to extend fields for multiple scripts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #language_script_country<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #ISO639_ISO15924_ISO3166<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Example: <a href="http://axschema.org/namePerson#ja_Kana_JP">
http://axschema.org/namePerson#ja_Kana_JP</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Breno: There is an ISO format for this – Nat and Breno will investigate<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Decision: Ignore information you don’t understand<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Need to discuss “id”, PPID, ephemeral ID<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">SCIM “id” stable and omnidirectional<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Breno: “id” omnidirectional, stable, IdP-relative. Should not be returned if directional identifier in id_token.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Breno: ID returned from userInfo endpoint should match the one in the id_token. If directional, call it “ppid”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Decision: Single “id” field, and also an ID Type field that can be ignored if not understood.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Defined ID Type values “omnidirectional”, “directional”. Other understood values MAY be used.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Breno: For compatibility: define “openid_identifier” field<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Decision: SCIM externalId, userName don’t make sense in this context<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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