[Openid-specs-ab] request_uris parameter of Dynamic Client Registration

Mike Schwartz mike at gluu.org
Wed Nov 26 18:43:43 UTC 2014

OpenID Connect gurus,

In SAML, an IDP can use the entityID to identify a website, and make a 
business decision for a certain attribute release policy. For example, 
to entityID "https://example.com/idp" I will release the username and 
mail attributes. And of course SAML supports several workflows for 
getting the latest metadata for entityID "https://example.com/idp" in 
case a new public certificate is required.

So in OpenID Connect, I am wondering what is the equivalent of 
"entityID" ? In our first implementation at Gluu, we used clientID as 
the entityID, and established trust to a certain clientID. The problem: 
OpenID Connect doesn't define a PUT method to update client credentials. 
So what to do if your client wants to get a new client secret or update 
its public key. Then you need to re-create the attribute release policy 
on the OP (and other policies, like supressing authorization in certain 

I chatted with John Bradley about this in a past IIW, and he suggested 
to perhaps use the "request_uris" parameter:
These request_uris could contain files that would provide the required 
information to correlate subsequent client registrations. The OP could 
store a SHA-256 hash to detect changes to the files.

My questions are :
   1) Is the clientid meant to be a stable identifier of the RP. Or is it 
a throw-away identifier to
      just represent the clientID at a given time.
   2) If clientID is meant to be stable, how would an OP automate trust 
and correlate the clients of a partner?
   3) Wouldn't it be best for the client to register a 2048 public key 
for future correlation, like in many SAML
      trust models? Or could this in fact be what one of the request_uris 

Am I missing something... as usual?

This issue is pressing for producing RP recommendations on how to 
support OpenID Connect. If request_uris is the way to correlate, we 
should be recommending every RP to add an optional field for this 

Thanks all! And happy Thanksgiving to all the US based people! One thing 
we all have to be thankful for is the amazing work of the OpenID Connect 
community this year!

- Mike

Michael Schwartz
Founder / CEO

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