[Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup

Nat Sakimura sakimura at gmail.com
Thu Oct 24 10:57:47 UTC 2013


Can we be less prescriptive and say that it should not occupy more than 75% of the width and height but has to be larger than certain size and to go full size if it is less than that size?

=nat via iPhone

Oct 24, 2013 17:18、"Vladimir Dzhuvinov / NimbusDS" <vladimir at nimbusds.com> のメッセージ:

> Popup windows can be resized dynamically after they are opened with
> JavaScript using window.resizeBy() or window.resizeTo(). Given the
> multitude of display sizes, aspect ratios and resolutions I suggest we
> leave this recommendation out.
> 
> --
> Vladimir Dzhuvinov : www.NimbusDS.com : vladimir at nimbusds.com
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup
> From: Tim Bray <tbray at textuality.com>
> Date: Wed, October 23, 2013 11:33 pm
> To: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
> Cc: "openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net"
> <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
> 
> If it were absent, I’m damn sure you wouldn’t get consensus to add
> it.  -T
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Mike Jones
> <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com> wrote:
>    I’m not hearing consensus to make any specific changes to this
> parameter.
> 
>                                                             -- Mike
> 
>   From: openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net
> [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Richer,
> Justin P.
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:09 PM
> To: Brian Campbell
> 
> Cc: openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> FWIW, we ignore this parameter completely as our UI is adaptive to
> screen size already. 
> 
> 
> -- Justin
> 
> 
>   On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Brian Campbell
> <bcampbell at pingidentity.com>
> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  IMHO, the display parameter already feels obsolete (I mean fixed pixel
> recommendations and wap feature phones?) and the world would be a better
> place if Connect was just silent on it and let the AS apply whatever
> display optimization heuristics it has at its disposal, which will no
> doubt evolve over time.
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM, George Fletcher <gffletch at aol.com>
> wrote:
>   Yes, this is a carry over from OpenID 2 and the popup window. I'm not
> sure a fixed size makes sense any more as each idp has its own
> dimensions. One of the original goals was to prevent window resizing but
> that is pretty much given in today's environment.
> 
> 
> 
> The main guidance I would give is that the popup window shouldn't cover
> more than X% of the screen. Hopefully some ui team will know what X is:)
> 
> 
> 
> For me, if the popup covers more than say 60% of the screen it's better
> to move the user to a full page redirect model. We've done this for most
> of our mobile and tablet flows because popups on mobile are a little
> weird UX wise.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> George
> 
> -- 
>  George Fletcher
> 
> Chief Architect, Identity Services
> 
> AOL Inc.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 5:50 AM, John Bradley <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com> wrote:
> 
> I think it was from the UI extension for openID 2.   I remember that
> there was a reason Google and the other authors of that extension needed
> it a fixed size at the time.  Something about the RP popping the window
> and the IdP needing to know the size to display text properly. 
> 
> 
> Now that we assume browsers are JS capable (Not so true 5 years ago) the
> IdP can likely dynamically determine the size.  It might still be a good
> idea to recommend a hight x width ratio.
> 
> 
> 
> JainRain and others can probably say what the current best practice is.
> 
> 
> 
> John B.
>   On 2013-10-22, at 11:40 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    Microsoft developers were asking where the 450x500 dimensions came
> from and if they’re the right ones.  Who know the history of where
> these dimensions came from?
> 
> 
> 
>                                                            -- Mike
> 
> 
> 
> From: Anthony Nadalin 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:38 PM
> To: Mike Jones; Tim Bray
> Cc: openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
> Subject: RE: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> Many devices don’t support 450 x 500 pixels
> 
> 
> 
> From: openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net
> [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Mike
> Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:42 PM
> To: Tim Bray
> Cc: openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rather than saying “The popup User-Agent window SHOULD be 450 pixels
> wide and 500 pixels tall” should we say “The popup User-Agent window
> SHOULD be a minimum of 450 pixels wide and 500 pixels tall”?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  -- Mike
> 
> 
> 
> From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray at textuality.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34 PM
> To: Mike Jones
> Cc: openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, no kidding. And what about on Retina displays?  This guidance
> seems in appropriate.
> 
> 
> 
>   On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Mike Jones
> <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> A question from developers that I forgot to ask on Monday:  Why is 450 x
> 500 the recommended window size for display=popup and is this the right
> size?
> 
> 
> 
>                                                            -- Mike
> 
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