[Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup

Chuck Mortimore cmortimore at salesforce.com
Wed Oct 23 16:41:04 UTC 2013


While we do our best to responsively adapt our login services, explicit
signaling from the client is important for some of our customer use-cases.
  We'd vote to maintain.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Brian Campbell
<bcampbell at pingidentity.com>wrote:

> IMHO, the display parameter already feels obsolete (I mean fixed pixel
> recommendations and wap feature phones?) and the world would be a better
> place if Connect was just silent on it and let the AS apply whatever
> display optimization heuristics it has at its disposal, which will no doubt
> evolve over time.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM, George Fletcher <gffletch at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is a carry over from OpenID 2 and the popup window. I'm not
>> sure a fixed size makes sense any more as each idp has its own dimensions.
>> One of the original goals was to prevent window resizing but that is pretty
>> much given in today's environment.
>>
>> The main guidance I would give is that the popup window shouldn't cover
>> more than X% of the screen. Hopefully some ui team will know what X is:)
>>
>> For me, if the popup covers more than say 60% of the screen it's better
>> to move the user to a full page redirect model. We've done this for most of
>> our mobile and tablet flows because popups on mobile are a little weird UX
>> wise.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> George
>>
>> --
>> George Fletcher
>> Chief Architect, Identity Services
>> AOL Inc.
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 5:50 AM, John Bradley <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think it was from the UI extension for openID 2.   I remember that
>> there was a reason Google and the other authors of that extension needed it
>> a fixed size at the time.  Something about the RP popping the window and
>> the IdP needing to know the size to display text properly.
>>
>> Now that we assume browsers are JS capable (Not so true 5 years ago) the
>> IdP can likely dynamically determine the size.  It might still be a good
>> idea to recommend a hight x width ratio.
>>
>> JainRain and others can probably say what the current best practice is.
>>
>> John B.
>> On 2013-10-22, at 11:40 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Microsoft developers were asking where the 450x500 dimensions came from
>> and if they’re the right ones.  Who know the history of where these
>> dimensions came from?****
>>
>>                                                             -- Mike****
>>
>> *From:* Anthony Nadalin
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:38 PM
>> *To:* Mike Jones; Tim Bray
>> *Cc:* openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
>> *Subject:* RE: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup****
>> ** **
>> Many devices don’t support 450 x 500 pixels****
>>
>> *From:* openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net [
>> mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net<openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Mike Jones
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:42 PM
>> *To:* Tim Bray
>> *Cc:* openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup****
>> ** **
>> Rather than saying “The popup User-Agent window SHOULD be 450 pixels wide
>> and 500 pixels tall” should we say “The popup User-Agent window SHOULD be
>>  a minimum of 450 pixels wide and 500 pixels tall”?****
>>
>>
>> -- Mike****
>>
>> *From:* Tim Bray [mailto:tbray at textuality.com <tbray at textuality.com>]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34 PM
>> *To:* Mike Jones
>> *Cc:* openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup****
>> ** **
>> Yeah, no kidding. And what about on Retina displays?  This guidance seems
>> in appropriate.****
>>
>> ** **
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
>> wrote:****
>> A question from developers that I forgot to ask on Monday:  Why is 450 x
>> 500 the recommended window size for display=popup and is this the right
>> size?****
>>  ****
>>                                                             -- Mike****
>>  ****
>>
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