[Openid-specs-ab] OpenID AB/Connect WG Meeting Notes (2023-03-13)

[Nat Sakimura]

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OpenID AB/Connect WG Meeting Notes (2023-03-13)
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* Date & Time: 2023-03-13 23:00 UTC
* Location:
https://zoom.us/j/97622169761?pwd=ek5kZUg3QnI1cCt6bTE3QzA3ZVlOQT09
* Self:
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2023-03-13_Pacific

Agenda
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1.   Roll Call
2.   Events
2.1.   IETF 116
2.2.   Other events
3.   Liaisons
3.1.   ISO/IEC 18035-7 and OpenID4VP Draft

Roll Call
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Attendes: Brian, Nat, Vittorio, David, Mke, Edmund, Tobias, George, Andres,
Jeremie

Events
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IETF 116
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Submission closes in 15 min.

* Mike, Nat, Vittorio, Tobias are going to be there

Other events
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* OpenID Foundation Workshop
* IIW
* SC27
* FDX
* RSA
* Financial Cryptography
* BGIN
* EIC

Liaisons
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ISO/IEC 18035-7 and OpenID4VP Draft
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Nat pointed out that there does not seem to be any
WGLC before the OpenID4VP Implementer's draft public review period.
It is only with the consensus that editors can ask the foundation
to start the public review, but there was no call for consensus in the
mailing list.

Mike claimed that he made it in the Atlantic call, but Nat pointed out that
that is not the WG consensus. We are diverse timezone-wise, and we have to
do it in the mailing list. Apparently, there was some discontent from the
Pacific call side, so it should not be ignored. We could even stop the
process.

Mike claimed that process should not get into what we want to do, but Nat
replied that as an SDO, not following the rule is the last thing it may
want to do.

Mike claimed that if we stop the process, ISO/IEC 18035-7 will kick us out.
Nat questioned that claim. Conveniently Andrew Hughes, who is in SC17 as
well working in ISO for a long time came in, and Nat asked Andrew to
explain the situation.

As it turns out, ISO/IEC TS 18035-7 is still a WD (stage 20.00 "New project
registered").
Thus, it is in expert mode.
There are about 30 people in the room, among which
about 10 of them support OpenID4VP. So, from the
consensus process point of view, editors should not remove
the text as long as the text is reasonable.

It seems that the priority is to have high-quality text to be included in
18035-7. In the meantime, the text on the foundation side should also be
polished. The recent merging of PR, for example, did not meet Brian's
expectations but was merged quickly. That kind of thing should not happen.

Mike has volunteered to do a close read on the OpeID4VP spec.
Andrew is going to do the ISO side text as well as the OpenID4VP spec.

The call adjourned at 00:01 UTC.

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Nat Sakimura
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