[Openid-specs-ab] Spec Call Notes 8-Feb-21

[Mike Jones]

Spec Call Notes 8-Feb-21

Mike Jones
John Bradley
Vittorio Bertocci
Brian Campbell
Kristina Yasuda
Tim Cappalli
Bjorn Hjelm
Tom Jones
Edmund Jay
Nat Sakimura

Federation Spec
              Roland Hedberg is addressing comments by Brian and Torsten
              There should be a new draft within a few weeks
              This is based on three rounds of interop work last year

SCIM Update
              Tim reported that Pam is trying to envision SCIM, FastFed, and SSE all working together
              There may be a SCIM BoF at the next IETF
              FastFed is now meeting every two weeks

FAPI V1 Final Specs
              Edmund reported that issues are being filed, reviewed, and addressed

Browser Interactions Special Topic Call
              Tim said that Microsoft plans to contribute its use cases, as do others
              Vittorio expects he and George to contribute some scenarios
              There will be another special topic call on Wednesday

SIOP Special Topic Call
              The topic of the last call was portable identifiers
              The goal is to enable all OPs to serve portable identifiers
              John said that some people don't want to port the identifiers themselves - just the cryptographic keys behind them
              The business model question was asked, on Mike's behalf
                           Some people didn't want to also have the business model discussion
              They discussed some of the new functionality that would be needed by RPs and OPs to support portable identifiers
              They discussed the relationship between this and the MODRNA account porting spec
              Kristina observed that the topic is broader than self-issued identities, and therefore should be happening in the main Connect WG calls
                           Several others agreed with that
              Tom asked about SIOP running over DIDComm
                           John said that he wasn't aware of alternate transport discussions
              Mike's observations from listening to the recording
                           Interesting that people agreed that there is no real interest by normal humans
                           There may be de facto interest if the provider is going out of business
                           RP support appears to be needed for porting identities
              There's a portable identifiers document being worked on
              The topic appears to broad enough that it deserves its own spec, separate from the SIOP V2 spec
              John reported that people didn't want the old provider to have to have a reference to the new provider
              John stated that we should rely on cryptographic solutions - not centralized solutions, such as Docker images
                           He said that we might be able to have cryptographic proof of an old provider delegating to a new one
              Nat commented that we could look at using an XRI-like model

Open Issues
              https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues
              #1206: How to support LD-Proofs in Verifiable Presentations
                           We should bring this up on a call when there are experts on the call
              #1207: Custom URL scheme clarification needed
                           This may be a duplicate of #1199
                           Tim said that we shouldn't just give up on this - possibly discussing it with OS vendors
                           There was a discussion about the usability problems of multiple handlers on iOS vs. Android
              #1203: sub_jwk when sub is DID in SIOP
                           Mike said that this is there to know which key to use

Wallet Discovery and Invocation
              We agreed to have a wallet discovery and invocation discussion during a future SIOP special topic call
              Tim said that this is also related to WebID
                           He asked why would WebID and this not be using CredMan?

Next Call
              The next call is on Thursday, February 11th, 2021 at 7am Pacific Time
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