[Openid-specs-ab] AB/Connect WG Call Note

Nat Sakimura nat at nat.consulting
Thu Aug 12 15:43:13 UTC 2021


OpenID AB/Connect WG Meeting Notes (2021-08-12)

   - Date & Time: 2021-08-12 14:00 UTC
   - Location: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694
   - Self:
   https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic

Agenda

   - 1.   Roll Call
   <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-roll-call>
   - 2.   Adoption of Agenda (Nat)
   <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-adoption-of-agenda-nat>
   - 3.   Events (Nat)
   <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-events-nat>
      - 3.1.   EIC (Nat)
      <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-eic-nat>
   - 4.   External Organizations
   <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-external-organizations>
      - 4.1.   ISO/SC17/WG10 (Kristina)
      <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-iso-sc17-wg10-kristina>
      - 4.2.   W3C
      <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-w3c>
   - 5.   PRs
   <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-prs>
      - 5.1.   PR39: merging CP into CA
      <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-pr39-merging-cp-into-ca>
   - 6.   Issues
   <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-issues>
      - 6.1.   #1268: Issues in the comment PR 34 by Torsten
      <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-issues-in-the-comment-pr-34-by-torsten>
         - 6.1.1.   Section 2.2 bullet 1
         <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-section-2-2-bullet-1>
         - 6.1.2.   Section 2.2 bullet 2
         <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-section-2-2-bullet-2>
      - 7.   AOB
   <https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-aob>

The meeting was called to order at 14:05 UTC.
1.   Roll Call
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id1>

   - Attending: Filip Skokan, Tom Jones, David Chadwick, Nat Sakimura,
   David Waite, Tim Cappalli, Pawel Kowalik, Jeremie Miller, Kristina Yasuda,
   Adam Lemmon, Chandon, Edmund Jay, Torsten Lodderstedt, John Bradley
   - Regrets: Mike
   - Guest: Andre Barnard (Singular Systems)

2.   Adoption of Agenda (Nat)
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id2>

   - This call is dedicated to the Federation draft.

3.   Events (Nat)
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id3>
3.1.   EIC (Nat)
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id4>

We, as a WG, will be presenting on Sept. 13 at EIC. Need to come up with a
presentation. If you have specific talking points, please chime into issue
#1275
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues/1275/agree-on-the-priority-talking-points-for>
.

There are a bunch of people attending EIC from this WG.

On-site: Nat, Torsten, Mike, Tim, Kristina Virtual: David C.
4.   External Organizations
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id5>
4.1.   ISO/SC17/WG10 (Kristina)
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id6>

Preparing to send out a liaison request with Mike L.
4.2.   W3C
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id7>

DID Core is going through the voting.
5.   PRs
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id8>
5.1.   PR39: merging CP into CA
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id9>

Agreed to the following:

   1. File the issues for each comment provided in the PR.
   2. Merge the PR.
   3. Immediately follow up with the issues filed in 1. The highest
   priority is to decide on how to express the "credential type" (e.g., VC,
   Signed Claimset, etc.) requested in the claims request.

6.   Issues
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id10>
6.1.   #1268: Issues in the comment PR 34 by Torsten
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id11>

The WG agreed to split this issue into individual issues so they can be
tracked separately.
6.1.1.   Section 2.2 bullet 1
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id12>

The draft is missing a parameter to determine the credential type. This is
important to allow OPs to support multiple credentials, e.g. a bank could
issue identity and credit score credentials, without to need to set
up different issuers.

=> Will be filed as Blocker
6.1.2.   Section 2.2 bullet 2
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id13>

"Public-private key pairs are used by a requesting Credential Holder to
establish a means of binding to the resulting credential. A Credential
Holder making a Credential Request to a Credential Issuer must prove
control over this binding mechanism during the request, this is
accomplished through the extended usage of a signed request defined in
OpenID Connect Core.“ Does this mean the holder can prove control using a
signed authentication request? If so, why isn’t the credential provided in
the token response?

Adam replied that the currently proposed mechanism is to include the
identifier that is bound to the key pair in the request and sign the
request using the signing key in the key pair. David C and John B agreed
that would work.

Then, Jeremy pointed out that will not work for ZKP/BBS+ case and explained
how it could work.

Apparently, there need to be more than two mechanisms to support, and
potentially we need an extension point for further expansion.

This issue will be discussed in the new separate ticket.
7.   AOB
<https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id14>

Please vote (even abstention will work) to CIBA Core and SSE voting.

The meeting was adjourned at 15:02 UTC
-- 
Nat Sakimura
NAT.Consulting LLC
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