[Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for popup
Torsten Lodderstedt
torsten at lodderstedt.net
Wed Oct 23 17:32:26 UTC 2013
we (still) use this kind of parameter it as well (excl. the "wap" value :-))
Am 23.10.2013 18:41, schrieb Chuck Mortimore:
> While we do our best to responsively adapt our login services,
> explicit signaling from the client is important for some of our
> customer use-cases. We'd vote to maintain.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Brian Campbell
> <bcampbell at pingidentity.com <mailto:bcampbell at pingidentity.com>> wrote:
>
> IMHO, the display parameter already feels obsolete (I mean fixed
> pixel recommendations and wap feature phones?) and the world would
> be a better place if Connect was just silent on it and let the AS
> apply whatever display optimization heuristics it has at its
> disposal, which will no doubt evolve over time.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM, George Fletcher <gffletch at aol.com
> <mailto:gffletch at aol.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, this is a carry over from OpenID 2 and the popup window.
> I'm not sure a fixed size makes sense any more as each idp has
> its own dimensions. One of the original goals was to prevent
> window resizing but that is pretty much given in today's
> environment.
>
> The main guidance I would give is that the popup window
> shouldn't cover more than X% of the screen. Hopefully some ui
> team will know what X is:)
>
> For me, if the popup covers more than say 60% of the screen
> it's better to move the user to a full page redirect model.
> We've done this for most of our mobile and tablet flows
> because popups on mobile are a little weird UX wise.
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
> --
> George Fletcher
> Chief Architect, Identity Services
> AOL Inc.
>
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 5:50 AM, John Bradley <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com
> <mailto:ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com>> wrote:
>
>> I think it was from the UI extension for openID 2. I
>> remember that there was a reason Google and the other authors
>> of that extension needed it a fixed size at the time.
>> Something about the RP popping the window and the IdP
>> needing to know the size to display text properly.
>>
>> Now that we assume browsers are JS capable (Not so true 5
>> years ago) the IdP can likely dynamically determine the size.
>> It might still be a good idea to recommend a hight x width
>> ratio.
>>
>> JainRain and others can probably say what the current best
>> practice is.
>>
>> John B.
>> On 2013-10-22, at 11:40 PM, Mike Jones
>> <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com
>> <mailto:Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft developers were asking where the 450x500
>>> dimensions came from and if they're the right ones. Who
>>> know the history of where these dimensions came from?
>>> -- Mike
>>> *From:*Anthony Nadalin
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:38 PM
>>> *To:*Mike Jones; Tim Bray
>>> *Cc:*openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
>>> <mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
>>> *Subject:*RE: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for
>>> popup
>>> Many devices don't support 450 x 500 pixels
>>> *From:*openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net
>>> <mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net>[mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net]*On
>>> Behalf Of*Mike Jones
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:42 PM
>>> *To:*Tim Bray
>>> *Cc:*openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
>>> <mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for
>>> popup
>>> Rather than saying "The popup User-Agent window SHOULD be
>>> 450 pixels wide and 500 pixels tall" should we say "The
>>> popup User-Agent window SHOULD bea minimum of450 pixels wide
>>> and 500 pixels tall"?
>>> -- Mike
>>> *From:*Tim Bray [mailto:tbray at textuality.com]
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34 PM
>>> *To:*Mike Jones
>>> *Cc:*openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net
>>> <mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [Openid-specs-ab] 450 x 500 recommendation for
>>> popup
>>> Yeah, no kidding. And what about on Retina displays? This
>>> guidance seems in appropriate.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Mike Jones
>>> <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com
>>> <mailto:Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>>> A question from developers that I forgot to ask on Monday:
>>> Why is 450 x 500 the recommended window size for
>>> display=popup and is this the right size?
>>> -- Mike
>>>
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