[Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
Mike Jones
Michael.Jones at microsoft.com
Fri Sep 9 15:55:52 UTC 2011
I agree with Tony. We should keep the labels as they are now at http://openid.net/connect/: Minimal, Dynamic, and Complete.
FYI, I'm working on a blog post for openid.net about the final spec organization that assumes those are the labels in the diagram.
Cheers,
-- Mike
From: openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Nadalin
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:24 AM
To: Allen Tom; hideki nara
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Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
The "static" and "dynamic" don't make sense, as the static is really not static, as it can be configured differently at any time, no one will understand those terms.
From: openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Allen Tom
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:18 PM
To: hideki nara
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Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
Nice job! Gotta love jQuery!
Allen
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:49 PM, hideki nara <hdknr at ic-tact.co.jp<mailto:hdknr at ic-tact.co.jp>> wrote:
jQuery UI version of Justin's HTML.
http://hdknr.bitbucket.org/connect.html
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hdknr
2011/9/8 Justin Richer <jricher at mitre.org<mailto:jricher at mitre.org>>
Why don't we skip the image map entirely and use something more HTML/CSS
based? That will flow better on more browsers, and it's just a more
modern approach to the problem. Attached is my 5-minute hack of it to
show it's at least feasible, and a CSS wizard should have no problem
making it look good. (And this version doesn't have links attached to
the divs, which are also trivial to add.)
-- Justin
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 01:17 -0400, Pam Dingle wrote:
> I have added the diagram to openid.net/connect<http://openid.net/connect>, with the
> minimal/dynamic/complete change and the shrunken SWD box. If we
> want to revise/delete, we can do so in a flash...
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> I've also included the updated image map in this email.
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> Thanks,
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> Pamela
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> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Mike Jones
> <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>> wrote:
> Better. Tony?
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> From: Pam Dingle [mailto:pdingle at pingidentity.com<mailto:pdingle at pingidentity.com>]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:01 PM
> To: Mike Jones
> Cc: Anthony Nadalin; openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
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> What about Minimal, Dynamic, and Complete?
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> No good reason for the SWD box to be bigger (that I
> remember). I will shrink to match the J* specs.
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> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Mike Jones
> <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>> wrote:
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> The alternative labels considered for those two boxes were
> "Minimal" (the same as before) and "Minimal Open" - the
> implication being that you have to support discovery and
> registration for open interactions. Ironically, those labels
> were rejected because some of the call participants thought
> that "Minimal Open" wouldn't be understood without an
> explanation.
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> --
> Mike
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> From: Anthony Nadalin
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:53 PM
> To: Mike Jones; Pam Dingle; openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
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> Subject: RE: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
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> If you have to explain it then the diagram is not needed since
> nobody will understand it w/o reading text.
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> From: Mike Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:48 PM
> To: Anthony Nadalin; Pam Dingle;
> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
> Subject: RE: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
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> We decided to use those terms on the spec call today. Static
> only works for static configurations. Dynamic extends that
> with discovery and registration to enable dynamic interactions
> among non-pre-registered parties. We plan to explain that in
> the text of the post.
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> --
> Mike
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> From: Anthony Nadalin
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:45 PM
> To: Pam Dingle; Mike Jones; openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
> Subject: RE: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
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> I don't understand why the bottom set of boxes are different
> in size (underpinnings). I also don't believe that the
> "minimal static" is static, these terms really don't fit
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> From:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net<mailto:From%3Aopenid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net>
> [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net>] On Behalf Of
> Pam Dingle
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:32 PM
> To: Mike Jones; openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
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> Here is the fixed version - does anyone object to my adding
> the image map onto http://openid.net/connect now too?
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> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Pam Dingle
> <pdingle at pingidentity.com<mailto:pdingle at pingidentity.com>> wrote:
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> If that's the case, openid.net/connect<http://openid.net/connect> needs to change too, I
> took the link from there.
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> I'll change both right now.
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> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Mike Jones
> <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>> wrote:
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> Hi Pam,
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> The link for basic currently is
> http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-lite-1_0.html. This
> needs to be changed to
> http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-basic-1_0.html. Can
> you please make this change and resend both the output files
> and the source?
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> Thanks again,
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> --
> Mike
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> From:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net<mailto:From%3Aopenid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net>
> [mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net>] On Behalf Of
> Pam Dingle
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Updated OpenIDConnect Diagram
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> Here is the updated map, based on discussion from today's
> call...
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> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Pam Dingle
> <pdingle at pingidentity.com<mailto:pdingle at pingidentity.com>> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> Here is the updated OpenID Connect diagram - it still shows
> classifications of "minimal", "typical", and "complete", but
> now has Lite as the only component of Minimal, and both
> Standard/Messages both as components of "complete".
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> If you're really brave you can test that the links in the html
> map work - I hope to post this after the meeting today,
> assuming we reach consensus on or before the call.
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> Thanks,
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> Pamela
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