<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">

<head>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">
<style>
<!--
 /* Style Definitions */
 p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman";
        color:black;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
pre
        {margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:"Courier New";
        color:black;}
span.EmailStyle18
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:Arial;
        color:navy;}
@page Section1
        {size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
        margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;}
div.Section1
        {page:Section1;}
 /* List Definitions */
 @list l0
        {mso-list-id:97070753;
        mso-list-type:hybrid;
        mso-list-template-ids:1342989790 67698703 67698713 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715;}
@list l0:level1
        {mso-level-tab-stop:36.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;}
ol
        {margin-bottom:0cm;}
ul
        {margin-bottom:0cm;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
  <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
 </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>

<body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue>

<div class=Section1>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi list,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I just had a really fertile talk with Eddy
about &#8220;IdP reputation&#8221;, during which I came up with a couple of ideas which I found
sound enough to be shared with the community:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If
     an RP is after strong IdP security, it should only trust IdPs that have SSL
     (so it would resolve all identifiers to https://)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Once
     an identity server is queried over SSL, it will be forced to return an
     X.509 certificate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>X.509
     certificates support explicit client-side security policy (so the RP may
     define a list of CAs it trusts for granting certificates to IdPs).<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>An &#8220;OpenID
     provider&#8221; certificate key usage should be defined (to be checked by RPs).<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A
     separate &#8220;IdP certificate&#8221; should be defined (to be queried via an
     extension to the protocol).<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A
     combination of (4) and (5) may be used for optimal transparent security.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please forgive me if (4) or (5) were
already defined. I&#8217;m not familiar with all existing OpenID extensions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Does the &#8220;IdP reputation&#8221; issue should be
further discussed?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dmitry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<pre><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>=damnian</span></font> <o:p></o:p></pre>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

</body>

</html>