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Hey Drummond,<div>Yeah, this is one of the things which still needs to get worked on. Maybe linking to <a href="http://www.inames.net/register.html">http://www.inames.net/register.html</a> is a good way to proceed.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I took a look at the links provided from there though:</div><div> - EZiBroker doesn't seem to let you actually get an i-name, rather just links you to iwantmynamenow.com.</div><div> - 2idi presents you with a form asking you to choose the price and them an empty text field, what am I supposed to type in the field? (doesn't meet the "simple" test)</div><div> - LinkSafe is much better, though submitting the "Search =i-name" button gives me a SSL certificate error. The "get a free i-name" link goes to a year old blog post telling you to use their contact form to request one.</div><div> - 1id.com is probably the simplest so far, but you have to know to use the "Check Availability" box in the top right and to first type "=".</div><div> - =you seems to be even simpler than 1id.com so seems like the best candidate to link to.</div><div> - INITECH seems to work though shows my password in plaintext, and just sends me off to PayPal with no real context.</div><div> - CIM3 also seems to work.</div><div> <div><div><div> - EnCirca gives me a giant warning which I don't even understand, "Please Note: These are for defensive registrations only. EnCirca does not support any services for i-names"</div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>There seems to be a much larger barrier to entry from these i-brokers compared to one of the URL OpenID providers currently.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>What we tried to do was create a sort of multi-step flow.</div><div> 1) you might already have one and don't know it</div><div> 2) here are some simple and well known providers within the community</div><div> 3) want more? look at the list on the wiki where every provider isn't guaranteed to work (maybe also link to <a href="http://www.inames.net/register.html">http://www.inames.net/register.html</a> from this paragraph?)</div><div> 4) roll your own, learn about delegation or scripts which help you</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>So really trying to make it as easy as possible. I wrote a bit more about this in a message to general@ (<a href="http://openid.net/pipermail/general/2007-October/003600.html">http://openid.net/pipermail/general/2007-October/003600.html</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>--David</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>On Oct 8, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Drummond Reed wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">David, Scott:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">While I really like almost everything about the new look and feel and content, there’s one area where I’m worried about the political position that it takes.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openid.net/get/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://openid.net/get/</a>clearly recommends a set of OpenID providers just by being listed there. And leaves out others simply by not being listed there. For example, none of the XDI.org-Accredited I-Brokers that offer i-names (free or paid) are listed there, nor is there even a reference to the XDI.org directory of i-brokers at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.inames.net/register.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.inames.net/register.html</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">As much as we want to make it easy for visitors to obtain an OpenID simply and easily, my concern is the community taking any position at all with regard to listing OpenID providers or i-brokers, rather than simply offering pointers to well known directories or public resources for discovering them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I know it’s not an easy problem to solve, but now that there’s a “there there”, it’s easier to discuss the tradeoffs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">=Drummond<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0pt 0pt 0pt 4.0pt"><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center; margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>marketing-bounces@openid.net [<a href="mailto:marketing-bounces@openid.net">mailto:marketing-bounces@openid.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Bill Washburn<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, October 08, 2007 6:02 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:david@sixapart.com">david@sixapart.com</a>; OpenID marketing<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Marketing] [OpenID] Website Being Updated Today</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hey David, Scott, Vidoop team--<br><br>Thanks for all your great efforts today. Fabulous work! <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Are there particular things you'd like people to look at first or pay extra attention to? Are you actually planning on doing more right away - tomorrow, for example? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>cheers,<br>-bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><span class="gmailquote"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 10/8/07,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">David Recordon</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:drecordon@sixapart.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">drecordon@sixapart.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Hey all,<br>New website is live!<br><br>--David<br><br>On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:32 AM, David Recordon wrote:<br><br>> Hey all,<br>> Just a reminder that Scott and I are out in the wonderful city of<br>> Tulsa, OK at Vidoop's offices working to upgrade the website.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Pretty soon we'll put up a "maintenance" page so expect the site to<br>> be down a bit of today.<br>><br>> Screenshot of the new front-page attached, though as you can tell<br>> content is still a word in progress!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><br>> Cool? Cool!<br>><br>> --David<br>><br>> <Picture 3.png><mime-attachment.txt><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:marketing@openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">marketing@openid.net</a><br><a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/marketing" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/marketing</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Times New Roman; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>