<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I think it is a very slippery slope for the website and/or board to recommend OpenID providers without being inclusive of ALL providers.<DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 8-Oct-07, at 11:31 PM, Drummond Reed wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">David, Scott:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">While I really like almost everything about the new look and feel and content, there’s one area where I’m worried about the political position that it takes. <A href="http://openid.net/get/">http://openid.net/get/</A> clearly recommends a set of OpenID providers just by being listed there. And leaves out others simply by not being listed there. For example, none of the XDI.org-Accredited I-Brokers that offer i-names (free or paid) are listed there, nor is there even a reference to the XDI.org directory of i-brokers at <A href="http://www.inames.net/register.html">http://www.inames.net/register.html</A>. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">As much as we want to make it easy for visitors to obtain an OpenID simply and easily, my concern is the community taking any position at all with regard to listing OpenID providers or i-brokers, rather than simply offering pointers to well known directories or public resources for discovering them.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I know it’s not an easy problem to solve, but now that there’s a “there there”, it’s easier to discuss the tradeoffs.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">=Drummond <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0pt 0pt 0pt 4.0pt"> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> marketing-bounces@openid.net [<A href="mailto:marketing-bounces@openid.net">mailto:marketing-bounces@openid.net</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Bill Washburn<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, October 08, 2007 6:02 PM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:david@sixapart.com">david@sixapart.com</A>; OpenID marketing<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Marketing] [OpenID] Website Being Updated Today</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Hey David, Scott, Vidoop team--<BR> <BR> Thanks for all your great efforts today. Fabulous work! <BR> <BR> Are there particular things you'd like people to look at first or pay extra attention to? Are you actually planning on doing more right away - tomorrow, for example? <BR> <BR> cheers,<BR> -bill<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="gmailquote"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">On 10/8/07, <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">David Recordon</SPAN></B> <<A href="mailto:drecordon@sixapart.com">drecordon@sixapart.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Hey all,<BR> New website is live!<BR> <BR> --David<BR> <BR> On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:32 AM, David Recordon wrote:<BR> <BR> > Hey all,<BR> > Just a reminder that Scott and I are out in the wonderful city of<BR> > Tulsa, OK at Vidoop's offices working to upgrade the website. <BR> > Pretty soon we'll put up a "maintenance" page so expect the site to<BR> > be down a bit of today.<BR> ><BR> > Screenshot of the new front-page attached, though as you can tell<BR> > content is still a word in progress! <BR> ><BR> > Cool? 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