<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Another issue is that XRI discovery is a part of the draft spec. By explaining the difference between OpendID 1.1 and OpenID 2.0 providers, we are complicating the issue for the target audience: "end users". Whatever providers are listed on that page need to "just work" according to the most recent finalized specification. Many reliers don't fully support OpenID 2.0 yet (LJ, for instance).<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Its another reason why it is important to get the spec out of draft status. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- Sam</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 9, 2007, at 6:21 AM, David Recordon wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> Hey Drummond,<DIV>Yeah, this is one of the things which still needs to get worked on. Maybe linking to <A href="http://www.inames.net/register.html">http://www.inames.net/register.html</A> is a good way to proceed.</DIV><DIV><BR class="webkit-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I took a look at the links provided from there though:</DIV><DIV> - EZiBroker doesn't seem to let you actually get an i-name, rather just links you to iwantmynamenow.com.</DIV><DIV> - 2idi presents you with a form asking you to choose the price and them an empty text field, what am I supposed to type in the field? (doesn't meet the "simple" test)</DIV><DIV> - LinkSafe is much better, though submitting the "Search =i-name" button gives me a SSL certificate error. The "get a free i-name" link goes to a year old blog post telling you to use their contact form to request one.</DIV><DIV> - 1id.com is probably the simplest so far, but you have to know to use the "Check Availability" box in the top right and to first type "=".</DIV><DIV> - =you seems to be even simpler than 1id.com so seems like the best candidate to link to.</DIV><DIV> - INITECH seems to work though shows my password in plaintext, and just sends me off to PayPal with no real context.</DIV><DIV> - CIM3 also seems to work.</DIV><DIV> <DIV><DIV><DIV> - EnCirca gives me a giant warning which I don't even understand, "Please Note: These are for defensive registrations only. EnCirca does not support any services for i-names"</DIV><BR class="webkit-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>There seems to be a much larger barrier to entry from these i-brokers compared to one of the URL OpenID providers currently.</DIV><DIV><BR class="webkit-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>What we tried to do was create a sort of multi-step flow.</DIV><DIV> 1) you might already have one and don't know it</DIV><DIV> 2) here are some simple and well known providers within the community</DIV><DIV> 3) want more? look at the list on the wiki where every provider isn't guaranteed to work (maybe also link to <A href="http://www.inames.net/register.html">http://www.inames.net/register.html</A> from this paragraph?)</DIV><DIV> 4) roll your own, learn about delegation or scripts which help you</DIV><DIV><BR class="webkit-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So really trying to make it as easy as possible. I wrote a bit more about this in a message to general@ (<A href="http://openid.net/pipermail/general/2007-October/003600.html">http://openid.net/pipermail/general/2007-October/003600.html</A>)</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>--David</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>