[Marketing] Revamping the Website
Bill Washburn
billhwashburn at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 10 00:23:48 UTC 2007
Genevieve--
Thanks very much. Would it be to much to ask you to articulate three or so bullet points (nothing elaborate at all) that you believe are essential to a good design approach for a template? To ask it differently, in showing use your design, what were you most aiming to make clear/easy/simple/etc.?
I'm not asking this to put you on the spot at all, but rather to make explicit what your approach aims to do.
Again, thanks very, very much.
cheers,
-bill
----- Original Message ----
From: Genevieve Pankey <genevieve.pankey at vidoop.com>
To: OpenID marketing <marketing at openid.net>
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2007 3:49:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Revamping the Website
Hi Everyone,
I'm the graphic designer for Vidoop that worked on a possible
template for openid2.info. I attached a screenshot of the design I
created and sent to David about a month or so ago. I just tried to
create a basic template design, keeping in mind something like
microformats.org. As David mentioned, you could consider this design
as a starting point for a discussion on a new design, and feedback is
welcomed.
Genevieve Pankey
Vidoop
On Jul 8, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Snorri wrote:
> Hey David and all,
>
> Cool!
> I am very happy to read this email ! Even more since I recall
> touching this
> matter few weeks ago (website, wiki,…)
>
> This update project is coming right on time (my personal opinion),
> because I
> feel a little slow down recently on new implementations of OID. I
> guess this
> curve is perfectly normal at one point.
>
> Here is my actions:
>
> Problems = solutions
> 1/ we should do a separated and independent wiki (like sites
> openidenabled, openiddirectory, spreadopenid?...) I bought
> openidwiki.com
> $5,95 ;-) This wiki should be a worldwide and extended knowledge
> database,
> help and work. This wiki should also be easy to update and
> maintain. Could I
> submit a structure for this wiki? Under MediaWiki licence. Like
> http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats etc...
> 2) I confirm, for both the website and the wiki, I added language on
> openid.net/wiki but I wasn’t able to make it better and I guess
> David you
> are running out of time to take care of this website alone isnt’
> it ? ;-)
> 3/ Yes! But the orange is the OpenID color, we should make smoother
> what’s need to be.
> 4) Ok, good for the end user OpenID.net il on the “Google Golden
> Triangle” but actually it’s true gibberish for your prefered
> Walmart’s sales
> associate! Just ask her/him to go on the website OpenID.net and
> hear what
> they have to say… They are the real end-user ! We should think mass
> and all
> public that shows the simplest part (OpenID is cool) as well as the
> most
> complicated (openidenable…) One part for everybody if I am a
> beginner, and
> one part for the developers.
> OpenID.net should be the main gate for the OpenID world, and then
> be able to
> direct anybody from End User to project manager or developer to the
> right
> information, which is not completely the case right now.
>
> Ok for Vidoop, where can we see what has been done already ?
> WordPress? for every blog or website?
> 1/ Yes
> 2/ Yes
> 3/ Yes!! ;)
> I used WordPresss for this French blog : www.openidblog.fr
> Personaly I find
> WordPress great, but I think also limited for the needs of
> OpenID.net. We
> should not hurry in this way before a tree structure and a web
> strategy is
> determined.
>
> New design / New challenge
> 1/ Web 2.0 is great for that! because we can change the design every
> day.
> 2/ of course !
> 3/ Yes "OpenID Orange"
> 4/ Yes please ! ;-)
>
> Yes, already said that, we don’t change the logo… This logo should
> not be a
> question of design but a matter of strategy. So everyone better
> like it as
> it is !! ==> We should talk about that again in 2008 ! ;)
>
> Yes, as I think, a website should let anybody on the side of the road,
> developers, OP/RP, and our Walmart’s sales associate! ;-) And Product
> managers = benefit for them to talk to their boss!
>
> We should be careful and don’t become a “pure marketing” website,
> it is not
> about creating an “OpenID Corporation” website ! We should be able
> to feel
> the free spirit of the movement, the community, the innovation, the
> dev...
> but also the seriousness of the technology for the professionals
> like large
> RP, managers, sponsors!!
>
> To work more efficiently, I propose that David schedule a planning
> with a
> specific deadline (give us some time please!!) with an online wiki
> where
> anybody can come and contribute, give their thoughts. I am afraid this
> mailing list could become very soon over booked with ideas that
> might be
> left behind. At the specific deadline, we should choose what has
> been chosen
> by everybody (or almost if we have to vote) and we go on this way
> without
> changing our minds. The point is to think now for the following
> years…. For
> example, the answer of Simon Willison and his requests are one of
> those
>
> Cool?
>
> -Snorri
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : marketing-bounces at openid.net [mailto:marketing-
> bounces at openid.net] De
> la part de Recordon, David
> Envoyé : dimanche 8 juillet 2007 04:42
> À : marketing at openid.net
> Objet : [Marketing] Revamping the Website
>
> Hey all,
> One of the things that has been on my list, and now the list of the
> OpenID Foundation, for a long time is revamping the website from
> both a
> design and content perspective. It certainly has become friendlier
> over
> time, but still has some problems:
> 1) It isn't easy to find content mixed between the website and the
> wiki
> 2) It isn't easy to edit the content or create new pages
> 3) The style could be nicer on the eyes
> 4) It is extrmeley developer focused and has no good resources for
> others wanting to learn about OpenID
> (http://www.notsorelevant.com/2007-05-15/openid-lack-of-promotion-
> to-end
> -users/)
>
> To help tackle this, the great guys at Vidoop worked on a new design a
> bit over a month ago, but we haven't really made much forward
> progress.
> The plan is to use WordPress to power the new site for a few reasons:
> 1) It is the same language as MediaWiki which means fewer packages to
> be installed on the server from a maintenance perspective
> 2) The ability to create and manage pages is quite flexible, allowing
> more people access to create and edit content
> 3) There is a really nice OpenID plugin for both commenting and
> administering the site
>
> So, the challenge at this point is to get a new site design (as at
> least
> a WordPress template if not also for MediaWiki) which we all can live
> with. The goals are:
> 1) A flexible design so the content can change overtime without
> having
> to recreate the design
> 2) CSS buttons so that the site is easy to localize
> 3) Balanced color scheme which is both professional and incorporates
> "OpenID orange" in accents
> 4) Top-level navigation combined with secondary navigation on some
> pages
>
> A non-goal at this time is creating a new logo.
>
> From a content perspective the largest goal is creating a site which
> balances the needs of developers, users, and business people (aka
> product managers looking at why they should support OpenID).
>
> I'm sure there will be questions I haven't answered, but hopefully
> this
> is a start. I'd invite the Vidoop designers to post their work as a
> starting point. I've bought the domain http://openid2.info (was
> cheap)
> as a development bed for this. I already have WordPress installed and
> some new text from Mike Ozburn and Johannes Ernst. In general, I
> think
> http://microformats.org/ does a very good job of a lot of this.
>
> Cool? Cool!
>
> Thanks,
> --David
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