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Dear Colin,<br>
<br>
The IPO site must have been down :-(<br>
<pre wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2463818">http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2463818</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2447866">http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2447866</a>
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I own the text and device trademark for the UK - see links above.<br>
<br>
My view is inline with the OpenID Foundation guidelines thus far:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openid2009.org/OpenID_Logo_Policy">http://wiki.openid2009.org/OpenID_Logo_Policy</a><br>
<br>
>Note that no derivative of the OpenID logo can be published without
prior approval from the Foundation.
<br>
<br>
Personally I am against derivative marks in principle. (Reason: brand
dilution and confusing to end users)<br>
<br>
Although you do probably not intend to use the device logo outside the
UK, please could you ask the Foundation formally for their view?<br>
<br>
If you can let me know their thoughts, I will perhaps adjust mine.<br>
<br>
Please remember that is my intention to hand over the trademark's at
some stage, but there are few issues to work through at the moment.<br>
<br>
Cheers Mark<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:colin.evans@nhs.net">colin.evans@nhs.net</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">These links give me a "failed to connect to documentum" error. What where
they supposed to indicate?
Regards: Colin Evans
NHS CFH Capability & Capacity
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From: Mark Cross [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:sites@thirdvisit.co.uk">mailto:sites@thirdvisit.co.uk</a>]
Sent: 10 August 2008 21:32
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:legal@openid.net">legal@openid.net</a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:colin.evans@nhs.net">colin.evans@nhs.net</a>; Snorri Giorgetti
Subject: Re: [legal] Permission to use a modified OpenID logo
Dear Colin,
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<pre wrap="">We would want to be sure that any use of an OpenID logo or other
identifiers was either within existing terms, or under an explicit
agreement. Can someone please come back to me to clarify whether we
can proceed within some element of your existing terms of use, or
whether this requires further discussions (and if so, who should we be
talking to?)
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<pre wrap=""><!----><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2463818">http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2463818</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2447866">http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2447866</a>
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<pre wrap="">non-commercial purposes) was quite open, however this thread-
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2008-March/000129.html">http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2008-March/000129.html</a> in the legal
archive seems to indicate that the trademark registration in the UK
will be far more restrictive. It specifically says that colours etc.
cannot be changed in the logo.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->Please do get in touch.
Best regards,
Mark Cross
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:colin.evans@nhs.net">colin.evans@nhs.net</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">OpenID Team,
I work within Connecting for Health, which is part of the UK National
Health Service. I.e. we are a non-profit government organisation.
I am currently working on a project where we are intending to use the
OpenID protocols to implement a "Restricted Domain" ID service.
Restricted means that only a specific set of web systems will be able
to connect to the ID server, and this server will talk to only those
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<pre wrap=""><!---->clients.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">We would like to give due credit to OpenID. However we would also like
to avoid confusing users by implying that our service is an open "all
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->clients"
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">service like myOpenID.com, which it is not. Users would not be able to
use our IDs to log on to MySpace for example.
We were therefore considering using a modified version of the OpenID
logo (e.g. with changed colours) to identify our service. Initial
reading on the main OpenID.net web site indicated that use of names
and logos (for non-commercial purposes) was quite open, however this
thread- <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2008-March/000129.html">http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2008-March/000129.html</a> in
the legal archive seems to indicate that the trademark registration in
the UK will be far more restrictive. It specifically says that colours
etc. cannot be changed in the logo.
We would want to be sure that any use of an OpenID logo or other
identifiers was either within existing terms, or under an explicit
agreement. Can someone please come back to me to clarify whether we
can proceed within some element of your existing terms of use, or
whether this requires further discussions (and if so, who should we be
talking to?)
Regards: Colin Evans
NHS CFH Capability & Capacity
CONNECT DISCOVER SHARE eSpace today at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.espace.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/">http://www.espace.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/</a>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->unlawful.
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