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color:#1F497D'>Often the lawyers don’t understand the definition of ”Open
Source” and how work this world! ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> legal-bounces@openid.net
[mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net] <b>De la part de</b> Bill Washburn<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 10 mars 2008 08:24<br>
<b>À :</b> Drummond Reed; Mike Jones; Raj Mata; Martin Atkins;
legal@openid.net<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>+1 <br>
Thanks everyone for these strong, helpful comments. While it is certain
that the guidance of an attorney(ies) is entirely necessary, it is not always
the case that lawyers are in the best position to give the most judicious
advice on how to formulate well balanced policies and guidelines that both well
protect a trademark and support extensive appropriate use. Hence there is
real value to be found, it seems to me, in having a TM committee that includes
OpenID community members with many diverse perspectives.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
-bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>----- Original Message ----<br>
From: Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@cordance.net><br>
To: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>; Raj Mata
<rajmata@yahoo-inc.com>; Martin Atkins <mart@degeneration.co.uk>;
legal@openid.net<br>
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2008 11:35:58 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
<br>
+1.<br>
<br>
=Drummond <br>
<br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>]
On Behalf<br>
> Of Mike Jones<br>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 1:13 PM<br>
> To: Raj Mata; Martin Atkins; <a href="mailto:legal@openid.net">legal@openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
> <br>
> Agreed. What trademark work I've been involved with in the past has<br>
> taught me that unless there's clear criteria for what is and isn't<br>
> conforming usage for the mark, the mark is meaningless.<br>
> <br>
> Criteria such as "must be used in contexts that promote OpenID and/or<br>
> indicate that a site is using approved or implementer's draft OpenID<br>
> specifications" make sense to me. My wording is terrible, but
you get the<br>
> point and the wording can be fixed. :-)<br>
> <br>
>
Cheers,<br>
>
-- Mike<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>]
On Behalf<br>
> Of Raj Mata<br>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 1:06 PM<br>
> To: Martin Atkins; <a href="mailto:legal@openid.net">legal@openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
> <br>
> +1!!<br>
> <br>
> Totally agree, the objective should be to provide users a clear and<br>
> consistent expectation when they see an OpenID trademark on the web, so<br>
> that we can enhance the value and adoption of OpenID in the marketplace!<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> <br>
> Raj<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>]
On<br>
> Behalf Of Martin Atkins<br>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:33 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:legal@openid.net">legal@openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
> <br>
> Hans Granqvist wrote:<br>
> >> There has been a lot of conversation about the use of the TM
symbol,<br>
> all<br>
> >> lawyers explain that it is important to write it... to avoid in
the<br>
> future<br>
> >> OpenID become a word like "kleenex",
"email"...<br>
> ><br>
> > But... Don't you *want* that to happen?<br>
> ><br>
> > "Nobody should own this. Nobody's planning on making any money
from<br>
> this."<br>
> > and all that, you know.<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> Presumably the concern is that other non-OpenID but identity-related<br>
> things could become known as "OpenID" as well. Other examples
include<br>
> people calling Atom "RSS", and calling Pepsi "Coke".<br>
> <br>
> The goal is to protect the trademark to avoid confusion in the<br>
> marketplace, not as a source of income.<br>
> <br>
> (At least, that *should* be the goal! I don't speak for OpenID Europe.)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
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