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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Bill,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes = the better answer is a &#8220;good balancing&#8221;</span><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the one hand; That is to
say everything concerning the protection of trademarks and Policy because in our
world it is necessary to avoid all you have said in this email,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And on the other; it&#8217;s
important to allow considerable freedom to use OpenID to avoid to have a long
and complicated rules that would be a brake to the free and rapid adoption of
OpenID<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Understand that the Foundation not go running behind each person
who don&#8217;t respect 100% the policies (or else we will have to recruit ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But merely that serious rules/Policy exist avoids abuse&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;m at your disposal&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Snorri<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De&nbsp;:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
legal-bounces@openid.net [mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net] <b>De la part de</b>
Bill Washburn<br>
<b>Envoyé&nbsp;:</b> samedi 8 mars 2008 21:27<br>
<b>À&nbsp;:</b> Snorri; Hans Granqvist; Carsten Pötter<br>
<b>Cc&nbsp;:</b> legal@openid.net<br>
<b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi Snorri,<br>
<br>
What precisely are you saying &quot;yes&quot; to?&nbsp; <br>
<br>
On the one hand, naturally it is highly desirable to have OpenID become a
widely used and recognizable term.&nbsp; Yes that much is good, for sure.<br>
<br>
OTOH, it is important/imperative that OpenID as a brand/trademark of the OpenID
community be legally protected and carefully policed regarding its
&quot;correct, proper, appropriate&quot; use, as amazing as that might sound to
all of us non-attorneys, because if we (the OpenID Foundation in behalf of the
OpenID community) fail to assiduously watch over, control, and maintain it's
proper/correct/authorized use, then the term &quot;OpenID&quot; runs the risk
of becoming entirely abused, misused, and ultimately having no definitive
meaning attached to it whatsoever.<br>
<br>
So this is a real balancing act, no doubt.<br>
<br>
Also, it important to say that there is a trademark committee just getting
going anew that is tackling these and related issues globally with the
objective to establish/articulate a set of policies and guidelines that are
understandable, well aligned, and coordinated across jurisdictions around the
globe.&nbsp; Please let me know if any of you would like to volunteer for that
committee.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
-bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>----- Original Message ----<br>
From: Snorri &lt;snorri@snorri.eu&gt;<br>
To: Hans Granqvist &lt;hans@granqvist.com&gt;; Snorri &lt;snorri@snorri.eu&gt;<br>
Cc: legal@openid.net<br>
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 10:06:52 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
<br>
Yes of course!<br>
And it is precisely why it is necessary to propose same rules for everybody.<br>
<br>
-----Message d'origine-----<br>
De&nbsp;: <a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>]
De la part<br>
de Hans Granqvist<br>
Envoyé&nbsp;: samedi 8 mars 2008 18:56<br>
À&nbsp;: Snorri<br>
Cc&nbsp;: <a href="mailto:legal@openid.net">legal@openid.net</a><br>
Objet&nbsp;: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
<br>
&gt; There has been a lot of conversation about the use of the TM symbol, all<br>
&gt; lawyers explain that it is important to write it&#8230; to avoid in the
future<br>
&gt; OpenID become a word like &quot;kleenex&quot;, &quot;email&quot;&#8230;<br>
<br>
But... Don't you *want* that to happen?<br>
<br>
&quot;Nobody should own this. Nobody's planning on making any money from
this.&quot;<br>
and all that, you know.<br>
<br>
Hans<br>
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