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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Bill,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Yes = the better answer is a “good balancing”</span><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the one hand; That is to
say everything concerning the protection of trademarks and Policy because in our
world it is necessary to avoid all you have said in this email,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And on the other; it’s
important to allow considerable freedom to use OpenID to avoid to have a long
and complicated rules that would be a brake to the free and rapid adoption of
OpenID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Understand that the Foundation not go running behind each person
who don’t respect 100% the policies (or else we will have to recruit ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But merely that serious rules/Policy exist avoids abuse…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’m at your disposal…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Snorri<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span
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legal-bounces@openid.net [mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net] <b>De la part de</b>
Bill Washburn<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> samedi 8 mars 2008 21:27<br>
<b>À :</b> Snorri; Hans Granqvist; Carsten Pötter<br>
<b>Cc :</b> legal@openid.net<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi Snorri,<br>
<br>
What precisely are you saying "yes" to? <br>
<br>
On the one hand, naturally it is highly desirable to have OpenID become a
widely used and recognizable term. Yes that much is good, for sure.<br>
<br>
OTOH, it is important/imperative that OpenID as a brand/trademark of the OpenID
community be legally protected and carefully policed regarding its
"correct, proper, appropriate" use, as amazing as that might sound to
all of us non-attorneys, because if we (the OpenID Foundation in behalf of the
OpenID community) fail to assiduously watch over, control, and maintain it's
proper/correct/authorized use, then the term "OpenID" runs the risk
of becoming entirely abused, misused, and ultimately having no definitive
meaning attached to it whatsoever.<br>
<br>
So this is a real balancing act, no doubt.<br>
<br>
Also, it important to say that there is a trademark committee just getting
going anew that is tackling these and related issues globally with the
objective to establish/articulate a set of policies and guidelines that are
understandable, well aligned, and coordinated across jurisdictions around the
globe. Please let me know if any of you would like to volunteer for that
committee.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
-bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>----- Original Message ----<br>
From: Snorri <snorri@snorri.eu><br>
To: Hans Granqvist <hans@granqvist.com>; Snorri <snorri@snorri.eu><br>
Cc: legal@openid.net<br>
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 10:06:52 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
<br>
Yes of course!<br>
And it is precisely why it is necessary to propose same rules for everybody.<br>
<br>
-----Message d'origine-----<br>
De : <a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:legal-bounces@openid.net">legal-bounces@openid.net</a>]
De la part<br>
de Hans Granqvist<br>
Envoyé : samedi 8 mars 2008 18:56<br>
À : Snorri<br>
Cc : <a href="mailto:legal@openid.net">legal@openid.net</a><br>
Objet : Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy<br>
<br>
> There has been a lot of conversation about the use of the TM symbol, all<br>
> lawyers explain that it is important to write it… to avoid in the
future<br>
> OpenID become a word like "kleenex", "email"…<br>
<br>
But... Don't you *want* that to happen?<br>
<br>
"Nobody should own this. Nobody's planning on making any money from
this."<br>
and all that, you know.<br>
<br>
Hans<br>
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