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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>FYI, the reason for having a legal contact
is that voting a draft to be an implementer's draft and/or final draft triggers
legal obligations among the contributors.&nbsp; I don't expect many people to
choose paper, but it's not unreasonable for some people to choose to want as a
back-up communication channel. &nbsp;Given that it's only contributors, I would
expect that the burden of doing this will be small, if any.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --
Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
billhwashburn@gmail.com [mailto:billhwashburn@gmail.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Bill
 Washburn</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 20, 2007
10:51 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Dick
 Hardt</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mike
 Jones</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">legal@openid.net</st1:PersonName>;
Scott Kveton; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">David Recordon</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">drummond.reed@cordance.net</st1:PersonName>Reed; Johannes Ernst; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">gabe.wachob@amsoft.net</st1:PersonName>Wachob; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sky@crucially.net</st1:PersonName>Bergman;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">David Daggett</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [legal] OpenID -
Revised Drafts of IPR Policy and Process Document</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dick, <br>
I am in complete agreement with you.&nbsp; At a minimum it would be so great to
receive feedback saying the work was reviewed and thought about.&nbsp; I hope
that we will have a lot of opportunity now to foster more community involvement
with respect to the many important tasks that now stand before us such as core
messaging, trademark policy, membership development, and dozens more.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
And, btw, please know that your input in improving the IPR documents has been
crucial.<br>
<br>
-bill<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Dec 20, 2007 10:34 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Dick Hardt</st1:PersonName>
&lt;<a href="mailto:dick@sxip.com">dick@sxip.com </a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am disappointed in the lack of community participation and public
disclosures in creating these documents.&nbsp;I think we all want a standards
creation process that is open, transparent and participatory -- we don't want
standards that are forced through -- so it is ironic that the process to create
an open process was not well executed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I agree we need to finalize the IPR so that the Foundation can move
forward, and think the IPR documents we have will &quot;work&quot; -- I just
wish we had done a better job of following a process to create the process. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#888888'>-- Dick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 20-Dec-07, at 10:04 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Bill Washburn</st1:PersonName>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><br>
<span style='word-spacing:0px'>I feel it is now fully incumbent on us to be
decisive and declare the IPR documents approved. Certainly now the Board would
not be remiss to vote the IPR done and approved with nothing more to do beyond
ensuring we get all the nitty-gritty details, like &quot;legal contact&quot;
and such, clearly sorted out. <br>
<br>
I also feel that we've made a supremely conscientious effort to keep the
community informed and welcome to make any comments since last September when
the substance of the IPR documents were made available for public
vetting.&nbsp; From my perspective at least it seems evident the paucity of
recent comments reflects a sense that all of this work was rather well received
and digested some time ago by the community of interested observers.&nbsp;
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Now it is time to take the Foundation public and announce we are officially
ready to proceed.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
-bill<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>-----
Original Message ---- <br>
From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Dick Hardt</st1:PersonName> &lt;<a
href="mailto:dick@sxip.com" target="_blank">dick@sxip.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mike Jones</st1:PersonName> &lt;<a
href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>&gt;;
<a href="mailto:legal@openid.net" target="_blank">legal@openid.net</a>; Scott
Kveton &lt;<a href="mailto:scott@kveton.com" target="_blank">scott@kveton.com</a>&gt;;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">David Recordon</st1:PersonName> &lt;<a
href="mailto:drecordon@sixapart.com" target="_blank">drecordon@sixapart.com</a>&gt;;
&quot; <a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net" target="_blank">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>
Reed&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net" target="_blank">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>&gt;;
Johannes Ernst &lt; <a href="mailto:jernst@netmesh.us" target="_blank">jernst@netmesh.us</a>&gt;;
&quot;<a href="mailto:gabe.wachob@amsoft.net" target="_blank">gabe.wachob@amsoft.net</a>
Wachob&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gabe.wachob@amsoft.net" target="_blank">
gabe.wachob@amsoft.net</a>&gt;; &quot;<a href="mailto:sky@crucially.net"
target="_blank">sky@crucially.net</a> Bergman&quot; &lt;<a
href="mailto:sky@crucially.net" target="_blank">sky@crucially.net</a>&gt;;
&quot;<a href="mailto:bill@oidf.org" target="_blank"> bill@oidf.org</a>
Washburn&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:bill@oidf.org" target="_blank">bill@oidf.org</a>&gt;;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">David Daggett</st1:PersonName> &lt;<a
href="mailto:david.daggett@klgates.com" target="_blank">david.daggett@klgates.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:25:39 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [legal] OpenID - Revised Drafts of IPR Policy and Process Document<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Darn, I started
reviewing the document and got sidetracked. Glancing over the document, it
looks complex, but generally in line with what we have discussed.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Ideally the IPR
Committee&nbsp;would&nbsp;have posted the complete set of documents on the
public site and announced them to the OpenID Community to get Community
feedback. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>I wonder about
giving notice of formal votes: if a member has a &quot;legal contact&quot;,
notice is supposed to be sent there. Does this mean that postal mail is sent if
it is a physical address? This could be very cumbersome for providing notice
for votes <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>-- Dick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>On 20-Dec-07, at
12:54 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mike Jones</st1:PersonName> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span
style='word-spacing:0px'>Strangely, I've seen no comments on these drafts,
either positive or negative.&nbsp; Does that mean that the OIDF board is ready
to vote them final as is, that discussion is occurring in other forums, or that
people have disengaged for the holidays and we've given up on finishing the IPR
work this year? </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-- Mike</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'>&nbsp;Daggett, David [<a href="mailto:david.daggett@klgates.com"
target="_blank">mailto:david.daggett@klgates.com</a>]&nbsp;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b>&nbsp;Sunday, December 16,
2007 11:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b>&nbsp;OpenID - Revised
Drafts of IPR Policy and Process Document</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold'>PLEASE
NOTE: You were BCC'd</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:black'>&nbsp; <a href="mailto:legal@openid.net" target="_blank">legal@openid.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>&nbsp;<a
href="mailto:scott@kveton.com" target="_blank">scott@kveton.com</a>; <a
href="mailto:dick@sxip.com" target="_blank">dick@sxip.com</a>; <a
href="mailto:drecordon@sixapart.com" target="_blank">drecordon@sixapart.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net" target="_blank">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>;
<a href="mailto:jernst@netmesh.us" target="_blank">jernst@netmesh.us</a>; <a
href="mailto:gabe.wachob@amsoft.net" target="_blank">gabe.wachob@amsoft.net</a>;
<a href="mailto:sky@crucially.net" target="_blank">sky@crucially.net</a>; <a
href="mailto:bill@oidf.org" target="_blank">bill@oidf.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>To all, revised drafts
of the IPR Policy and Process document are attached.&nbsp; Please do not
hesitate to contact me if you have any questions regarding the attached. </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>David
K. Daggett</span></font></b><a name="116f8d698881698d_"></a><font size=2
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>K&amp;L Gates</span></font><font
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><br>
</span></font><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2
  color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>618 West Riverside Avenue</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black
  face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Suite</span></font></st1:Street><font
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 color:black'> 300</span></font></st1:address><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Spokane</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Washington</st1:State>&nbsp;
 <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">99201-0602</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
Voice: (509) 624-2100<br>
Fax: (509) 444-7864<br>
Cell: (509) 710-3068<br>
e-mail:</span></font><u><font color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></u><u><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:david.daggett@klgates.com" target="_blank">david.daggett@klgates.com</a></span></font></u><font
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font-family:Arial;color:black'>web:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font><font
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href="http://www.klgates.com/" target="_blank"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> www.klgates.com</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
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