[legal] OpenID - Revised Drafts of IPR Policy and Process Document

[Mike Jones]

FYI, the reason for having a legal contact is that voting a draft to be an implementer's draft and/or final draft triggers legal obligations among the contributors.  I don't expect many people to choose paper, but it's not unreasonable for some people to choose to want as a back-up communication channel.  Given that it's only contributors, I would expect that the burden of doing this will be small, if any.

                                                Cheers,
                                                -- Mike

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From: billhwashburn at gmail.com [mailto:billhwashburn at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bill Washburn
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:51 AM
To: Dick Hardt
Cc: Mike Jones; legal at openid.net; Scott Kveton; David Recordon; drummond.reed at cordance.netReed; Johannes Ernst; gabe.wachob at amsoft.netWachob; sky at crucially.netBergman; David Daggett
Subject: Re: [legal] OpenID - Revised Drafts of IPR Policy and Process Document

Dick,
I am in complete agreement with you.  At a minimum it would be so great to receive feedback saying the work was reviewed and thought about.  I hope that we will have a lot of opportunity now to foster more community involvement with respect to the many important tasks that now stand before us such as core messaging, trademark policy, membership development, and dozens more.

And, btw, please know that your input in improving the IPR documents has been crucial.

-bill


On Dec 20, 2007 10:34 AM, Dick Hardt <dick at sxip.com <mailto:dick at sxip.com> > wrote:
Bill

I am disappointed in the lack of community participation and public disclosures in creating these documents. I think we all want a standards creation process that is open, transparent and participatory -- we don't want standards that are forced through -- so it is ironic that the process to create an open process was not well executed.

I agree we need to finalize the IPR so that the Foundation can move forward, and think the IPR documents we have will "work" -- I just wish we had done a better job of following a process to create the process.

-- Dick

On 20-Dec-07, at 10:04 AM, Bill Washburn wrote:



I feel it is now fully incumbent on us to be decisive and declare the IPR documents approved. Certainly now the Board would not be remiss to vote the IPR done and approved with nothing more to do beyond ensuring we get all the nitty-gritty details, like "legal contact" and such, clearly sorted out.

I also feel that we've made a supremely conscientious effort to keep the community informed and welcome to make any comments since last September when the substance of the IPR documents were made available for public vetting.  From my perspective at least it seems evident the paucity of recent comments reflects a sense that all of this work was rather well received and digested some time ago by the community of interested observers.

Now it is time to take the Foundation public and announce we are officially ready to proceed.

cheers,
-bill

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Subject: Re: [legal] OpenID - Revised Drafts of IPR Policy and Process Document
Darn, I started reviewing the document and got sidetracked. Glancing over the document, it looks complex, but generally in line with what we have discussed.

Ideally the IPR Committee would have posted the complete set of documents on the public site and announced them to the OpenID Community to get Community feedback.

I wonder about giving notice of formal votes: if a member has a "legal contact", notice is supposed to be sent there. Does this mean that postal mail is sent if it is a physical address? This could be very cumbersome for providing notice for votes

-- Dick

On 20-Dec-07, at 12:54 AM, Mike Jones wrote:


Strangely, I've seen no comments on these drafts, either positive or negative.  Does that mean that the OIDF board is ready to vote them final as is, that discussion is occurring in other forums, or that people have disengaged for the holidays and we've given up on finishing the IPR work this year?

                                                                -- Mike

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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:27 PM
Subject: OpenID - Revised Drafts of IPR Policy and Process Document

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