<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>We differentiate between primary and federated accounts in AccountChooser only to explain the spec differences between initiating a user-only discovery (ie all you get back is data to fill a local login or registration form so the user doesn't have to) and a user+idp discovery, which could act as a basis for a federated authentication request with an attached login hint. <br><br></div>I agree that most consuming sites would not consider this primary/federated account dichotomy a fundamental account classification, other than briefly at authentication time. If that terminology is confusing, we could definitely consider alternative terms to communicate those two methods of discovery, drop me an email if you feel like a different description would make the spec easier to understand.<br><br></div>Thanks!<br><br></div>Pamela<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:25 PM, peter williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:home_pw@msn.com" target="_blank">home_pw@msn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><a href="http://openid.net/wg/napps/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/wg/napps/</a> links to <a href="http://hg.openid.net/napps/" target="_blank">http://hg.openid.net/napps/</a> which then redirects to <a href="https://bitbucket.org/" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/</a></div>
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<div>MODERNA <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile</a></div>
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