<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes I was talking to a Yahoo person this week at the IETF meeting about OAuth+SASL and how Connect help them streamline the experience.<div><br></div><div>We are not going to get rid of passwords until we enable all the common protocols like IMAP.</div><div><br></div><div>The bad user experience around IMAP and other things is done of the reasons Google's multi factor authentication hasn't gotten traction with normal people.</div><div><br></div><div>If you you could do a openID connect login from your IMAP client rather than having to enter a 32 character protocol password that would dramatically improve things.</div><div><br></div><div>Apple seems to be doing something like this for there iCloud services. Though probably in a proprietary way.</div><div><br></div><div>I think it is something that should be explored.</div><div><br></div><div>John B.<br><div><div>On 2012-03-31, at 9:48 AM, Eric Sachs wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>There is a similar effort of OAuth+SASL to enable OpenID. This page has some old info</div> <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/Home/oauthimap">https://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/Home/oauthimap</a><br>
as well as a link to the mailing list. Yahoo has generally been the most active in the work in this area.<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Simon Josefsson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:simon@josefsson.org">simon@josefsson.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It allows clients to authenticate against servers using OpenID for<br>
protocols that uses SASL. That includes SMTP, IMAP, XMPP and so on. So<br>
far OpenID has been for web login only, but this changes that.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
/Simon<br>
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Peter Williams <<a href="mailto:home_pw@msn.com">home_pw@msn.com</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> Why does it need to exist?<br>
><br>
> What does it do that 156 other gss methods do not do?<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 11:17 PM, "Nat Sakimura" <<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Great news!<br>
>><br>
>> I will have a look at it.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Nat<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Simon Josefsson <<a href="mailto:simon@josefsson.org">simon@josefsson.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi folks!<br>
>><br>
>> I have been working on the IETF draft for OpenID in SASL:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-08" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-08</a><br>
>><br>
>> and now also implemented it in GNU SASL, see this writeup:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gsasl/2012-03/msg00004.html" target="_blank">https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gsasl/2012-03/msg00004.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> I wanted to reach out to the OpenID community to find people who want to<br>
>> work on implementing/deploying this. If you have some interest in<br>
>> implementing OpenID support for your SASL-based application (SMTP, IMAP,<br>
>> XMPP, etc) let me know and I will try to help.<br>
>><br>
>> If anyone else has implemented the OPENID20 mechanism, I would also love<br>
>> to do interop testing.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> /Simon<br>
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>> Nat Sakimura (=nat)<br>
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