<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 September 2010 19:25, Brian Kissel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p>You are correct, many websites choose to accept only the
major OpenID providers (Google, Yahoo, AOL, MySpace, etc.) plus Facebook,
Twitter, LinkedIn, Microsoft LiveID. The reason is that, from their
experience so far, they have better success rates with large branded OPs than
smaller, less well known ones. At least in the US today, consumers prefer
to "click a button" instead of typing in an OpenID URL. And the
major OPs cover a wide swath of most RPs members/customers/users, so the
incremental benefit for allowing access to any OP isn't compelling enough for
many RPs.</p>
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<p>Janrain Engage, for example, supports direct OpenID as
seen here at NPR, but it’s up to our clients to determine if they want to
offer it or not. If we want more RPs to highlight OpenID, not just the
major OPs, we need to create a compelling business case for them to do
it. Right now they feel that they can get all the benefits they need with
6 to 12 major ID providers. If/when additional providers enter the market
with compelling value propositions for RPs and end users, then the UX may need
to evolve. InCommons/Shibboleth is wrestling with that issue right now.</p>
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<p>Also, if/when the OpenID brand means something to RPs and
end users beyond the open standard technology that powers services from some
major OPs, then RPs might be more inclined to utilize/promote the brand.
The certification work that OIX is doing may help with this. The CX work
that Nat Sakimura and others are working on may help.</p>
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<p>If the OpenID community wants to see more RP support for
the OpenID brand (separate from adopting the technology), then we need to earn
that support with compelling value for RPs and end users.</p></div></div></blockquote><div>This makes complete sense from, a business point of view. <br><br>But this level of white listing doesnt seem to me to be as "Open" as it could be. We had a similar situation before OpenID with passport. What about the smaller players that took the time to adopt OPenID but are getting serially excluded, or even someone wanting to host there own profile?<br>
<br>is any part of the OpenID vision still involved with driving decentralization of the web, or have business considerations largely taken over?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p>Cheers, Brian</p>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:18 AM<br>
To: Lukas Rosenstock<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:openid-general@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-general@lists.openid.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OpenID] Seven sites you didn’t know were using OpenID</p>
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<p>how can an openid implementation not support openid?
confusing.</p>
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<p>Lukas Rosenstock wrote:</p>
<p>> Most of them have it ... but I couldn't find it on
Slurpee, Kodak and Slate.</p>
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<p>> 2010/9/21 Melvin Carvalho
<<a href="mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com" target="_blank">melvincarvalho@gmail.com</a>></p>
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<p>>> I think i you scroll to the bottom you'll see a
way to login with your</p>
<p>>> OpenID. On some widgets you may have to
click a 'more' button then you'll</p>
<p>>> get a chance to login with your OpenID. Id
be surprised if it was omitted</p>
<p>>> completely.</p>
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