...which doesn't seem that great from an accessibility perspective, though I understand the motivation.<div><br></div><div>What's wrong with just linking to the OpenID URL and having that suffice?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Arnott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrewarnott@gmail.com">andrewarnott@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
One way I've balanced the "easy to read" ideal with the "accurate" ideal is to use tooltips. I display the easy-to-read versions in text on the page, but if you hover over it, you get the whole long claimed_id. <br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Chris Messina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+1.<div><br></div><div>Great points... we should definitely be showcasing how "cool" and "useful" OpenID can be especially in cases like this. Exposing the inner workings (or limitations?) of the technology only works to reinforce people's stereotypes of OpenID that's it's hard to use, confusing, and ugly (we're Specimen A for proving all those points!).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Perhaps this is something that should be listed either on Get Satisfaction and/or UserVoice so we have it captured somewhere more public (sorry, but our mailing list archives are a beast to search and navigate).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Chris <div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Johannes Ernst <span dir="ltr"><jernst+<a href="http://openid.net" target="_blank">openid.net</a>@<a href="http://netmesh.us" target="_blank">netmesh.us</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I just realize that the membership pages on <a href="http://openid.net" target="_blank">openid.net</a> show all http URLs *without* the protocol. E.g the voting page lists the following candidates:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://mfrons22.wordpress.com" target="_blank">mfrons22.wordpress.com</a><br>
<a href="http://allentom.com" target="_blank">allentom.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.google.com/accounts/o" target="_blank">www.google.com/accounts/o</a>
<br>
<a href="http://bkkissel.myopenid.com" target="_blank">bkkissel.myopenid.com</a><br>
daniel.jacobson.myopenid.
<br>
<a href="http://blame.ca" target="_blank">blame.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/d" target="_blank">www.google.com/profiles/d</a>
<br>
=!BF81.FD97.C81B.B4E5<br>
<a href="http://openid.jonathancoffman.co" target="_blank">openid.jonathancoffman.co</a>
<br>
<a href="http://josephsmarr.com" target="_blank">josephsmarr.com</a><br>
=!477C.45CF.CAA7.A71<br>
<a href="http://martin.paljak.pri.ee" target="_blank">martin.paljak.pri.ee</a><br>
<a href="http://www.google.com/accounts/o" target="_blank">www.google.com/accounts/o</a>
<br>
<a href="http://otti.clavid.ch" target="_blank">otti.clavid.ch</a><br>
<br>
If we continue to insist that <a href="http://XXX" target="_blank">http://XXX</a> and <a href="https://XXX" target="_blank">https://XXX</a> are two different OpenIDs, we should not list them this way. (Personally, I don't, but that was the majority view every time somebody asked.)<br>
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I also question whether abbreviating OpenIDs is ever a good idea, or whether printing an i-number instead of something human-comprehensible.<br>
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Also, while we are on the subject, why not make them all clickable, so we can learn something about the candidates? Remember, this is the original use case for why http URLs as identifiers as opposed to any other identifier. And for voting purposes, that makes every sense in the world as all of the above http OpenIDs would lead to interesting pages about the candidates, if they were clickable that is. The abbreviated ones aren't even copy-pasteable ...<br>
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P.S. This is intended to be a bunch of bug reports against the app, not a complaint. ;-) Didn't know where the bug tracking system was so I post it here ;-)<br>
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