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<p class=MsoPlainText>Agreed, there's quite a lot of discussion here that may
not be of interest to all the subscribers, but as Chris points out, the OIDF
doesn't have the resources to moderate the list. Rather we'd like to
encourage people to utilize specific lists for more narrowly targeted topics
when possible and only use this list when it doesn’t fit one of the other
lists or you feel it will be of interest to the majority of subscribers. If
we need more categories of lists for specific topical discussions we can easily
set them up, just ask.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>You can see the list of the current topics at <a
href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>List Description<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>board [no
description available]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Code [no
description available]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>eu General
OpenID discussions relating to Europe<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>general OpenID
General Discussion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>legal Legal
discussion around OpenID<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>marketing OpenID
marketing<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>security Discussion
around security and anti-phishing tactics<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>specs OpenID
Specifications Discussions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>specs-council Specifications Council<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Specs-cx Contract
Exchange for dynamic exchange of legal contract among the parties.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>specs-pape PAPE
specification mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Specs-ui User
Interface Working Group Specs list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>user-experience OpenID user experience<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>votes DEPRECATED
- Community and board votes happen here<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'><br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:navy'>___________</span></b><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:navy'><a
href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254"><span style='color:blue'>Brian
Kissel</span></a></span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:navy'>CEO, JanRain - </span></b><b><i><span
style='color:#333399'>WebID and Social Publishing for User Engagement</span></i></b><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'>5331 SW Macadam Ave., Suite 375,
Portland, OR 97239<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:navy'>Email</span></b><span
style='color:navy'>: <a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com"><span
style='color:navy'>bkissel@janrain.com</span></a> <b>Cell</b>:
503.866.4424 <b>Fax</b>: 503.296.5502<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Chris Messina<br>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:19 AM<br>
To: Siddharth Jagtiani<br>
Cc: openid-general@lists.openid.net; dcrocker@bbiw.net<br>
Subject: Re: [OpenID] SNR<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Even this thread has a low signal-to-noise ratio.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Perhaps part of the problem is that it's unclear who the
moderators<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>are, or should be. Many if the creators or original
proponents that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>used this list have moved on or gotten too busy to
participate here<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>and as such, there is little steering going on here.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>It would seem like a useful exercise then to figure out
who is<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>perceived to be a moderator, who wants to do it, and how
they should<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>fulfill that role.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I too would like to see more substantive, respectful
discourse on this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>list, but am far too overstretched to be on the line to
moderate it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>effectively.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>On Saturday, November 28, 2009, Siddharth Jagtiani<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><jagtiani.siddharth@gmail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> IT Amendment Act 2008<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> 66A: Sending offensive Messages<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Punishment: - Imprisonment for a term which may
extend to three years and Fine.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Rabbit
<rabbit@cyberpunkrock.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'rabbit@cyberpunkrock.com');>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> On Nov 27, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> I strongly suggest a zero tolerance policy, with an
escalating banishment rule, starting with a one-month suspension from the list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Obviously, such a policy should not be enforced on
behaviors occurring prior to its establishment. Participants need to
first be put on notice.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> +1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> If something is not done I will unsubscribe.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> As a member for years, I'm begging this issue be
taken seriously.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> We all want to contribute. There's no excuse for
hostility.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> =Rabbit<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> general mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
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'cvml', 'general@lists.openid.net');><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>>
http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-general<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>-- <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Chris Messina<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Open Web Advocate<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Personal: http://factoryjoe.com<o:p></o:p></p>
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