<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Santosh,<div><br></div><div>That's NOISE!</div><div>Pat.</div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Santosh Rajan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div>You think what John Panzer did was polite right? Because he did not use any offensive language right?<div><br></div><div>Great! This tells me how equally prejudised you are Andrew. Sorry to say this.<br><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Andrew Arnott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrewarnott@gmail.com">andrewarnott@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I made no accusation or even suggestion in my post about your contribution to the SNR. My grounds for suggesting your being banned is based entirely on how you express yourself so offensively.<div><br></div><div>But to avoid <i>myself</i> contributing further to the noise end of the ratio, this will be my last post on this thread.<br>
<div><div class="im"><br clear="all">--<br>Andrew Arnott<br>"I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre<br>
<br><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Santosh Rajan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:santrajan@gmail.com" target="_blank">santrajan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Andrew,<div><br></div><div>It would have been much better, if you had actually counted the no of posts I have made, which you consider as "signal" and which you consider as "noise". And then made a case for banning me.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Since no one has yet done that, I strongly take acseption to the prejudice that is being doled out to me.</div><div><br></div><div>Please go ahead and ban me, but make sure that you are NOT doing the following.</div>
<div>1) You are banning a person for critisising somebody and something.</div><div>2) You are banning a person who has technical opinions that are contrary to yours.</div><div>3) You are banning a person because he does not speak your "normative" language.</div>
<div>4) You are banning a person for not speaking your kind of plain english.</div><div>5) You are banning a person for speaking his mind out.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Santosh</div><div><br></div><div><div>
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Andrew Arnott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrewarnott@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrewarnott@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Ok, Santosh, you've crossed the line one too many times. The fact that you were offended by that statistical analysis does not warrant such explicitly offensive attacks on the sender. You've offended many people many times on this list, and I for one would like to see you banned.<br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Santosh Rajan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:santrajan@gmail.com" target="_blank">santrajan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><br></div>If you had any brains in your stupid head, you would have run an algorithm that would have shown the no of posts that were "signal" versus the no of posts which had "noise".<div><br></div>
<div>With lesser brains you could have actually read physically and counted the no of posts that were "signal" versus the no of posts that had "noise".</div><div><br></div><div>Instead you chose to print out the names of the people against the no of posts they have made, which has nothing to do with signal and noise.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This only goes to show what a stupid, idiotic, prejudiced human being you are.<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:58 AM, John Panzer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jpanzer@google.com" target="_blank">jpanzer@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just as a quick and dirty data point, I took the frequency of postings for various authors from the <a href="http://lists.openid.net/" target="_blank">lists.openid.net</a> archives for this group for November and did a very quick and dirty histogram:<div>
<br></div><div><div><div>$ awk '{print $NF,",",$(NF-1)}' </tmp/t | uniq -c | sort -n -r</div><div> 62 Rajan , Santosh</div><div> 37 Admin , SitG</div><div> 18 Williams , Peter</div><div> 16 Bradley , John</div>
<div> 11 Panzer , John</div><div> 10 Kemp , John</div><div> 9 Messina , Chris</div><div> 7 Norris , Will</div><div> 7 Hammer-Lahav , Eran</div><div> 4 McDowell , Brett</div><div> 4 Madsen , Paul</div><div> 4 Kissel , Brian</div>
<div> 4 H , James</div><div> 4 Balfanz , Dirk</div><div> 4 Arnott , Andrew</div><div> 3 Weintraub , Etan</div><div> 3 Tom , Allen</div><div> 3 Livingstone-Perez , Steven</div><div> 3 Jain , Ashish</div><div>
3 CROCKER , Dave</div><div> 2 Tschofenig , Hannes</div><div> 2 Sakimura , Nat</div><div> 2 Henry , Story</div><div> 2 ED) , (OIDF</div><div> 2 Davis , Peter</div><div> 2 Cappelaere , Pat</div><div> 1 Shupp , Bill</div>
<div> 1 Sachs , Eric</div><div> 1 Russell , Terrell</div><div> 1 Rosenstock , Lukas</div><div> 1 Recordon , David</div><div> 1 Nat , "acct:"</div><div> 1 Mona , Anderson,</div><div> 1 Medeiros , de</div>
<div> 1 Klingenstein , Nate</div><div> 1 Ehrig , John</div><div> 1 Biering , Henrik</div></div></div><div><br clear="all"><font color="#888888">--<br>John Panzer / Google<br><a href="mailto:jpanzer@google.com" target="_blank">jpanzer@google.com</a> / <a href="http://abstractioneer.org/" target="_blank">abstractioneer.org</a> / @jpanzer</font><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Bill Shupp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hostmaster@shupp.org" target="_blank">hostmaster@shupp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The signal to noise ratio on this list is getting a bit low. I, for one, wouldn't mind the list administrators doing more about it.<br>
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Bill Shupp<br>
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