<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif, 'Arial Unicode MS'; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Well Jean, in any case looking at it philosophically (and not politically) you are right. There shouldn't be any geographical identity community. Given that identity is for the whole human kind.<div>
<br></div><div>To get down to real world problems, we like it or not, identity is heavily tied to the DNS, which is very much political.</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe Identity should be completely independent of DNS?</div>
</span><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Jean-Noël Colin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jn.colin@gmail.com">jn.colin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi<div><br></div><div>Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm feeling left out... I'm sure people at the board are very accommodating. I'm just feeling I'm missing some glue within the community... Being informed of what's going on, for instance... Getting feedback from the OpenId summit I just found out took place recently... I don't see a trace of it on the <a href="http://openid.net" target="_blank">openid.net</a> website... </div>
<div><br></div><div>And also, why create an <a href="http://openideurope.eu" target="_blank">openideurope.eu</a>, if it doesn't show any sign of activity: I think it's giving a wrong signal to the public</div><div>
<br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Jean-Noël</div></font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 05 Nov 2009, at 15:57, Santosh Rajan wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Joen, Andy,<div><br></div><div>I must agree with Andy. I don't know why you should feel left out Joen. I think everyone should participate in this OpenId community (and make it one global community).</div>
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<div>I can assure you from my experience, (even though i mostly disagree with the views around here), the folks around here are accomodating of people from anywhere, even an obnoxious guy like me :-)</div><div><br></div>
<div>So everyone should feel free to participate here.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Andy Powell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk" target="_blank">andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">Here’s my gut feeling on this...</span></p><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the
board needs global representation on it if possible. I’m not convinced
that trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense
other than:</span></p><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"> </span><br></div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"><span>1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">to organise local events and so on, and</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"><span>2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the
OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the US).</span></p><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is
at the wrong level – it’s too broad for both the events and the
lobbying. Building communities at a lower level might work...</span></p><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">However, I’m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core
Metadata Initiative which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily
as a funding model) with associated national communities and in my experience
it is very hard to get those national communities working properly –
things either happen globally, or they don’t happen at all.</span></p><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">Just my 2c (Euros!).</span></p>
<div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">Hope this helps,</span></p><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"> </span><br></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Andy</span><span style="color:blue"></span></p><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> </span><br></div>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Andy Powell</span><span style="color:blue"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Research Programme Director<br>
<b>Eduserv </b></span><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;color:black"> </span></b><span style="color:blue"></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue"><a href="mailto:andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt">andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk</span></b></a></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black"> <br>
01225 474319 / 07989 476710</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:blue"></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue"><a href="http://www.eduserv.org.uk/" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt">www.eduserv.org.uk</span></b></a></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue"><a href="http://efoundations.typepad.com/" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt">efoundations.typepad.com</span></b></a><b><u></u></b></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue"><a href="http://twitter.com/andypowe11" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt">twitter.com/andypowe11</span></b></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"></span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean-Noël
Colin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 November 2009 09:52<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local
representatives</span></p>
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</div><div><div></div><div><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear members of the OpenId board,</p>
<div><div> <br></div>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId
representative, and I would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId
Europe</p>
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<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal">the OpenId Europe website was last updated in
June, to announce my 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008.
Does it really make sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling
that it gives a bad image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like
a not very lively community</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">I understand that being OpenId representative
means that I should have a role towards my local community, and I already
had some contacts for that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay
between the foundation and the local communities? Shouldn't there be an
top-down information flow? I'm of course following what's happening on the
specs mailing list, but I must admit I don't feel what it's like to be
part of the OpenId community... I renewed my membership to show my
support, but don't really feel part of any real community, which I think
is a bit sad</li>
</ul>
<div><div> <br></div>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the
OpenId Europe community, and put in place some communication flows from the
board towards the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this
community.</p>
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<div><div> <br></div>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards</p>
</div>
<div><div> <br></div>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">---</span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Prof. Jean-Noël Colin</span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Faculty of Computer Science<span> </span>Tel:
+32 (0)81 725274</span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">University of Namur<span> </span><a href="http://info.fundp.ac.be/" target="_blank">http://info.fundp.ac.be</a> </span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Rue Grandgagnage 21<span> </span>Skype:
jn.colin</span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">5000 Namur</span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Belgium</span></p>
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