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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&gt; </span>Host-meta doesn't provide the OP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&gt; </span>It provides a mapping from some identifier to a XRD for that identifier.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&gt; </span>It is the target XRD for the user that specifies the OP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Thanks for reminding me of the extra layer of indirection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">That does mean a solution where host-meta takes precedence still has some flexibility to handle, say, a different OP for just a few special OpenID URIs on
 a site.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Host-meta now uses the XRD syntax. It no longer just looks like a mapping from identifiers to the metadata (XRD) for each identifier. It now looks like common
 metadata (XRD) for a host of identifiers, optionally with a reference to more identifier-specific metadata (XRD).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">If host-meta can say: the ‘describedby’ link for all URIs at this host is xyz; why shouldn’t it say the ‘openid2.provider’ link for all URIs at this host
 is abc? </span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">The semantics seem to work, as long as RPs are looking for this relation in host-meta.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">A ‘describedby’ link in an XRD looks like an app-layer version of an HTTP redirect: you can have 0, 1, or more of them. [Perhaps an “@import url(…)” statement in a cascading
 stylesheet is a better analogy, as it also has issues of merging data from various sources.]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I guess a higher layer, like OpenID, might choose to mandate that “there MUST be exactly 1 level of indirection” (ie host-meta SHALL specify a ‘describedby’ link, but no ‘openid*’
 links; whereas an OpenID identifier’s XRD SHALL NOT include a ‘describedby’ link).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">James Manger</span></b><span style="color:#1F497D">
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<a href="mailto:James.H.Manger@team.telstra.com"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">James.H.Manger@team.telstra.com</span></a>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Identity and security team</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">—</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> Chief Technology Office</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">—</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> Telstra<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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