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<p class=MsoPlainText>"Identity2.0" dated back to at least 2005. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><a
href="http://www.equalsdrummond.name/?p=7">http://www.equalsdrummond.name/?p=7</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>"user centric" claimed for 2004: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>"Saving the World with
User-centric Identity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>I am a community leader and have
been working on open standards for user-centric identity since 2004." <a
href="http://www.identitywoman.net/">http://www.identitywoman.net/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3280.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3280.txt</a>
(2002)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>profiles URI for naming identity certs, from ISO standard
(from 1996..!)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>URIs/URLs are cool for B2C authorization (not identity,
note).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>[December 01, 2000]
"Security Services Markup Language (S2ML). VeriSign XML Trust Services.
VeriSign S2ML White Paper. 9 pages. Fall 2000." <a
href="http://xml.coverpages.org/verisign-s2ml_wp.pdf">http://xml.coverpages.org/verisign-s2ml_wp.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Hallam-Baker addressing, reportedly in 1994 from CERN, addressing what (I think)
identity2.0 folks would call UCI.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i>"We have two options either
we can attempt to define wonderful academic forms of trust model de novo. Or we
can observe the real world and attempt to model the trust mechanisms that allow
it to function. Since we do not see a hierarchical trust model it is not the
solution. We do not see anarchy either, or at least in places where it has
taken hold it is disaster. What we see is binary interpersonal relationships
heavily qualified in manyways. The approach that has always seemed most
promising to me is to replicate those relationships allowing them full colour
with respect to the areas for which trust is granted (finacial, notarial,
reliability etc), the extent of such trust and the confidence with which that
trust is allowed." (SIC) <a
href="http://mcwg.org/mcg-mirror/trustdef.htm#[13]">[13]</a></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://mcwg.org/mcg-mirror/trustdef.htm#[13">http://mcwg.org/mcg-mirror/trustdef.htm#[13</a>]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>The Foundation has focused and done its assigned job –
get relying parties. With USG as a relying party, lots of corporations will
follow (given the endorsement). NOTHING should be taken away from that immense achievement
(especially given the sheer array of hurdles that were thrown in the path of
the openid “upstart”). But, it would be nice occasionally if openid
could drop the heavy media-spin about its uniqueness and originality once in a
while, and admit it’s part of a long, long tradition.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Dave Kearns<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:00 PM<br>
To: Brian Hamlin; openid-general@lists.openid.net<br>
Subject: Re: [OpenID] Clippinger and the Berkman Center<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>John was probably thinking of The Berkman Conference on
User Centric<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Identity and Commerce (June 19-21, 2006). Being an old
codger like myself,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>he may have thought it was the cause of IIW (2006A was
only a few weeks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>before that conference, and the first to use that name, I
think), rather<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>than (as I remember) being a result of the first meeting
at Cal. Berkman<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>(via Paul Trevithick and the Higgins Project) was well
represented at the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>original meeting in Berkeley in late 2005, though.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>-dave<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> From: openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> [mailto:openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net]On
Behalf Of Brian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Hamlin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:51 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> To: openid-general@lists.openid.net<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Subject: [OpenID] Clippinger and the Berkman Center<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Did John Clippinger stand on stage at Gov 2.0 this
week and claim that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> *he* and the Berkman center organized the Internet
identity community,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> leading to OpenID, among other things ??<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Did Mr. Clippinger neglect to give due credit to the
Internet Identity<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Workshop, the first occurrence of which was held in
Berkeley,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> California ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Without being present, this appears to me to be an
outrageous attempt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> at institutionally backed grand standing, ignoring
real grass roots<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> organizing, attempting to re-write history and take
credit for the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> enormous undertaking that has become OpenID.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> -Brian M Hamlin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
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