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<body class='hmmessage'>It's a small but significant step forward.<br><br>Business-wise they'd never get the go ahead to just release OpenID to the wild.<br><br>Moving in the right direction tho'.<br><br>steven<br>http://livz.org<br><br><hr>From: pwilliams@rapattoni.com<br>To: sccpffm@gmail.com; openid-general@lists.openid.net<br>Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:46:22 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [OpenID] Facebook Cooperation with German Email Providers?<br><br>


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<p class=EC_MsoNormal><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=EC_MsoNormal><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">That is the question that many analysts are now asking; now
there is something to bother asking about.</span></p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">Is openid a movement that simply defined some bit of technology from
which vendors build private authentication networks?</span></p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">Or is openid an open standard that requires no vendor-vendor
setup to let users interwork?</span></p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">There are two things to measure: what the foundation says, and
what one can measure as praxis of the larger corporate players.</span></p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-general-bounces@lists.openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carsten
Pötter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-general@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID] Facebook Cooperation with German Email Providers?</span></p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal>&nbsp;</p>

<p class=EC_MsoNormal>Yesterday German email providers Web.de and GMX released a
press release stating that their users will be able to log in to Facebook using
OpenID (<a href="http://faz-community.faz.net/blogs/netzkonom/archive/2009/08/24/facebook-chooses-german-e-mail-provider-web-de-and-gmx-as-first-open-id-partner-in-europe.aspx" target="_blank">http://faz-community.faz.net/blogs/netzkonom/archive/2009/08/24/facebook-chooses-german-e-mail-provider-web-de-and-gmx-as-first-open-id-partner-in-europe.aspx</a>).
Both email providers are subsidiaries of United Internet and dominate the
German email market.</p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal>So far both providers offered users a &quot;navigator&quot;
to log in to various social networks, online merchants,... However users had to
provide usernames and passwords -&gt; password anti-pattern. If I got things
right, both providers have to become OpenID Providers now. Though why is there
an explicit cooperation with Facebook?</p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal>Is Facebook eventually accepting OpenIDs?</p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal>Are Web.de/GMX and Facebook using any vendor specific APIs
or extensions?</p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal>Anyone from Facebook here who can shed some light on the
topic? Thanks!</p>

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<p class=EC_MsoNormal>Carsten&nbsp;</p>

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