<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Peter, Brett<div><br></div><div>As a member of Liberty, Kantara, ICF, and OIDF. I can say that I have never seen any indication of Liberty plotting against openID or info-card. (I do go to most of the secret meetings)</div><div><br></div><div>The issue with physical access is more one of not trying to boil the ocean.</div><div><br></div><div>There is real desire by real government RPs to use open technologies and work with commercial identity providers. There are RPs I am working with who want this yesterday.</div><div><br></div><div>This first step is hard enough. Many people have been working hard for many months.</div><div><br></div><div>One of the ways we have been able to make progress is by limiting the scope. </div><div><br></div><div>We could have done physical access, LoA 4, p-cards and other things.</div><div><br></div><div>The initial program by the GSA is a start not an end to the process.</div><div><br></div><div>There will be changes to the initial profiles and additional profiles as time and requirements permit.</div><div><br></div><div>This first step is a scary amount of work, give us time please.</div><div><br></div><div>John B.</div><div> <br><div><div>On 11-Aug-09, at 5:04 PM, <a href="mailto:openid-general-request@lists.openid.net">openid-general-request@lists.openid.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:43:29 -0700<br>From: Peter Williams <<a href="mailto:pwilliams@rapattoni.com">pwilliams@rapattoni.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OpenID] OpenID + Government<br>To: Brett McDowell <<a href="mailto:email@brettmcdowell.com">email@brettmcdowell.com</a>><br>Cc: OpenID List <<a href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:7911DEBA-C04B-4CC7-8A4B-967626522E9A@rapattoni.com">7911DEBA-C04B-4CC7-8A4B-967626522E9A@rapattoni.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>If the infocard stack is technically reputable, can you explain why an<br>accredited provider would be excluded from using it (and openid) from<br>making assertions of physical presence?</span></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>