Heh. Go for it!<div><br></div><div>Of course, you might find some resistance from various international bodies unless you're adept at balancing the politics of centralized systems against the desire for national sovereignty.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Chris<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:35 PM, santrajan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:santrajan@gmail.com">santrajan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br>
This is really a no-brainer. Somebody should really just go ahead and<br>
implement it. Forget about waiting for anything.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Chris Messina wrote:<br>
><br>
> Heh. I think it needs to be implemented first, and that will require some<br>
> massive infrastructure and adoption before it will become useful.<br>
> In reality, the later will require more policy and social change than<br>
> technological effort, so I wouldn't hold your breath. But, if you're<br>
> really<br>
> passionate about this, that's the idea to be advocating and pointing to.<br>
><br>
> Chris<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:10 PM, santrajan <<a href="mailto:santrajan@gmail.com">santrajan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Cool! So it will just require some javascript I presume. How fast you<br>
>> think<br>
>> this can be implemented?<br>
>><br>
>> Chris Messina wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 11:23 AM, santrajan <<a href="mailto:santrajan@gmail.com">santrajan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Exactly! To quote from that doc.<br>
>> >> "The suggested approach involves two new systems that we refer to as<br>
>> the<br>
>> >> CDS<br>
>> >> (Central Discovery Service) & PDS (Personal Discovery Service). The<br>
>> only<br>
>> >> job of the CDS is to indicate the location of the user's PDS. "<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Something like this for OpenID.<br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Right. This was what we discussed at the OpenID Design Workshop — that<br>
>> > such<br>
>> > a PDS system could hint to the browser what OP the current user uses —<br>
>> and<br>
>> > nothing more — to enable a generic "Sign in" button for the web w/o<br>
>> having<br>
>> > to support the Nascar screen of logo-buttons that will surely emerge<br>
>> with<br>
>> > the proliferation of directed identity and OPs.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Chris<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Chris Messina wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM, santrajan <<a href="mailto:santrajan@gmail.com">santrajan@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Yes but the consumer registration is still required right? I mean<br>
>> it<br>
>> >> >> wouldn't<br>
>> >> >> work without the OAuth key?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Auto-registration is a possibility. It's not unlike the association<br>
>> >> that<br>
>> >> > takes place in OpenID on the fly, to the best of my [limited]<br>
>> >> knowledge.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >> Regarding centralized discovery I was thinking of a centralized<br>
>> >> >> repository<br>
>> >> >> for identities that will allow discovery and manage trust.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > You mean like Passport or Facebook? I'm not sure I understand what<br>
>> >> you're<br>
>> >> > proposing. Centralization is against the model and design of the web<br>
>> >> > (albeit, DNS is pretty much centralized discovery/resolution).<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Have you read about the Personal Discovery Service?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/Home/pds" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/Home/pds</a><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chris<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
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